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C-3 Dakota 4.7 Liter..
Pin#
#1 C13 (db/or) a/c Compressor Relay "control".
#3 K51 (db/yl) ASD Relay "control"..
#4 V36 (tn/rd) s/c vacuum Control "relay"..
#5 V35 (lg/rd) s/c Vent "control"..
#8 K100 (vt/wt) 02-1/1 Heater control..
#9 K512 (dg/bk) 02- Downstream Heater control..
#10 K106 (wt/dg) NVLD solenoid "Control"..
#11 V23 (yl/rd) s/c Supply..
#12 A142 (dg/or) ASD Relay "output"..
#13 T10 (yl/dg) 4.7 Torque Management request sensor..
#14 K107 (OR) Leak detection Pump "Sensor"..
#15 K118 (pk/yl) Battery Temp. Sensor "signal"..
#16 K200 (vt/or) 02 Relay "driver"..
#19 K31 (BN) Fuel Pump Relay.."PDC"..
#20 K52 (pk/bk) EVAP PURGE solenoid signal..
#22 C20 (BN) a/c Switch Sensor..
#24 V40 (wt/pk) Brake lamp switch Sensor..
#25 K125 (wt/db) Generator source..
#26 K226 (db/wt) Fuel Pump Relay "Control"..PDC.
#27 D21 (PK) SCI Bus Transmit..
#29 D20 (LG) SCI- Receive ..
#30 D25 (vt/yl) PCI- Bus..
#32 V37 (rd/lg) s/c switch "Signal"...(speed control)..


ALSO applies to some Rams with 4.7 Liter Motors..

TCM , 2001 Transmission.computer..60 WAY..
PIN#
#1 T1 (lg/bk) TRS- T1 Sensor..
#2 T4 (pk/or) TRS- T2 Sensor..
#3 T3 (vt/lb) TRS- T3 Sensor..
#6 K24 (yl/rd) CRANKSHAFT Position sensor..
#7 D15 (wt/dg) SCI Transmit..
#8 A41 (YL) IGNITION Switch output..12v (+)//
#9 T9 (or/bk) Overdrive Pressure switch Sensor..
#10 T10 (yl/dg) Torque Management Request sensor..
#11 A51 (rd/wt) IGNITION switch output...
#12 K22 (db/yl) TPS, Signal..
#13 T13 (db/bk) Speed sensor Ground..(-)
#14 T14 (lg/wt) Output Speed sensor signal..
#15 K30 (PK) Transmission Relay "Control"
#16 T16 (RD) Transmission Relay "OUTPUT"..
#17 T16 (RD) Transmission Control "output"..
#18 T118 (vt/db) Pressure control relay "output"..
#19 T19 (wt/db) 2-C, Solenoid Control..
#20 T120 (LG) L/R -Solenoid Control..
#28 G7 (dg/yl) Vehicle speed sensor..
#29 T29 (GY) GROUND.. (-)
#30 T38 (vt/or) Line pressure sensor "Signal"..
#36 T16 (RD) Transmission Control Relay "OUTPUT"..from TCM..
#37 Z13 (bk/rd) GROUND.. (-)
#38 T39 (gy/lb) 5 VOLT Supply.. (+) 5.v...
#39 Z13 (BK/RD) GROUND (-) .
#40 T140 (vt/lg) MS , Solenoid Control..
#41 T41 (bk/wt) TRS- T41..
#42 T42 (vt/yl) TRS- T42..
#43 D25 (vt/or) SCI- BUS..
#45 D6 (pk/lb) SCI- Receive ..
#47 T147 (LB) 2-C, Pressure switch sensor..
#48 T48 (DB) 4-C, Pressure switch sensor..
#49 T6 (or/wt) Overdrive "OFF"..
#50 T50 (LG) Low/Reverse pressure switch sensor..
#51 K4 (tn/bk) SENSOR GROUND.. (-)
#52 T52 (rd/bk) Input Speed sensor Signal..
#53 Z113 (bk/db) GROUND.. (-)
#54 T54 (VT) Transmission Temp. Signal
#55 T59 (PK) Underdrive Solenoid Signal..
#56 A61 (lg/bk) Fused Battery (+) 12.v..
#57 Z13 (bk/rd) GROUND (-)..
#59 T159 (dg/wt) 4-C solenoid control..
#60 T60 (BN) Overdrive Solenoid Control..
 
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TCM- Pin-out is for a 2003 Hemi..The only difference between the two
IS the color of the wires...
 
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THIS is the 2003 ECM Hemi computer Ram Pin-out..
Starting with C-1...Black Plug...
PIN#
#1 K98 (lb/rd) Coil #8
#3 K97 (BN) Coil #7
#4 K28 (gy/lb) Injector #8
#5 K26 (vt/tn) Injector #7
#8 B222 (dg/wt) Vehicle Speed sensor #2
#9 Z81 (bk/tn) GROUND (-)
#11 Y135 (lg/bk) FUSED Ignition Output..(+) 12v..
#12 Y135 (lg/bk) Fused Ignition Output ..(+) 12.v..
#13 B22 (dg/yl) Vehicle speed sensor #1..
#18 Z82 (bk/tn) GROUND (-)
#20 G60 (gy/yl) Oil Pressure signal..
#21 C18 (DB) a/c pressure signal..
#22 G31 (vt/lg) AAT- Signal.. outside air temp..
#25 D20 (LG) SCI -Receive (PCM)..
#26 D6 (pk/lb)SCI -Receive (TCM)..
#27 K6 (vt/wt) 5 VOLT Supply... (+) 5.v...
#29 A14 (rd/wt) FUSED Battery (+) 12.v..
#30 A41 (YL) FUSED Ignition Output..12.v..(+)
#31 K141 (tn/wt) 02-1/2 Signal..
#32 Y213 (pk/lb) 02 -Return Upstream..
#36 D21 (PK) SCI -Transmit...
#38 D25 (vt/bn) PCI- BUS..

C-2 2003 Hemi Ram ECM Pin-out... Orange Plug..38 way

PIN#
#1 K96 (tn/lb) Coil #6
#2 K95 (tn/dg) Coil #5
#3 K94 (tn/lg) Coil #4
#4 K58 (bn/db) Injector #6
#5 K38 (GY) Injector #5
#6 F888 (bn/bk) ETC Motor (+) "Control"..
#7 K93 (tn/or) Coil #3
#9 K92 (tn/pk) Coil #2
#10 K91 (tn/rd) Coil #1
#11 K14 (lb/bn) Injector #4
#12 K13 (yl/wt) Injector #3
#13 K12 (TN) Injector #2
#14 K11 (wt/db) Injector #1
#15 K101 (WT) (5.7) TP. Sensor Return..
#17 K299 (bn/wt) 02-2/1 Heater Control..
#18 K41 (bk/dg) 02-1/1 Heater control.
#19 K20 (DG) Generator field control..
#20 K2 (tn/bk) ETC. Signal..
#21 K22 (or/db) TP #1 "signal"..
#23 K1 (dg/rd) MAP- Signal..
#24 Y205 (bn/wt) (5.7) Knock Sensor #1 Return..
#25 K73 (yl/bk) (5.7) Knock Sensor #1 Signal.
#26 K77 (bn/wt) Transfer case position sensor .."Input"..
#27 K4 (bk/lb) Sensor Ground.. (-)
#28 K122 ( db/gy) (5.7) TP #2 "signal"..
#29 K7 (OR) 5. Volt Supply.... (+)5.v..
#30 K21 (bk/rd) IAT Signal..
#31 K99 (bn/or) 02-1/1 Signal..
#32 K902 (bn/dg) 02 Return Downstream..
#33 K241 (lg/rd) (4.7) 02-2/1 "signal"..
#34 K44 (tn/yl) CMP Signal..Camshaft Position signal..
#35 K24 (gy/bk) CKP Signal.. Crankshaft Position Signal..
#36 K74 (bn/vt) (5.7) Knock Sensor #2 signal..
#37 Y206 (db/vt) (5.7) Knock Sensor #2 Return..
#38 F855 (or/pk) (5.7) ETC Motor (-) Control..


C-3- 2003 Hemi Ram ECM Pin-out..White Plug..38 way..
PIN#
#3 K51 (db/yl) ASD Relay Control..
#5 V35 (lg/rd) (4.7) s'c Vent Control..
#6 Y145 (db/yl) Condensor Fan Relay Control..Radiator Fan for swap..
#7 V32 (yl/rd) (4.7)-s/c power Supply..
#8 K106 (wt/dg)(4.7)-NVLD Solenoid Control..
#9 K199 (bn/vt) 02-1/2 Heater Control..
#10 K399 (bn/gy) (4.7) 02-2/2 Heater Control..
#11 C13 (db/or) a/c Clutch Relay Control...
#12 V36 (tn/rd) (4.7) s/c vacuum Control..
#14 V32 (yl/rd) (5.7) Brake switch #2 "signal"..
#15 Y215 (yl/pk) (5.7) s/c Switch Return..
#16 K223 (pk/db) APPS # 1 Return..
#17 K981 (br/dg) APPS # 2 Return..
#18 V38 (vt/or) s/c switch #2 Signal..
#19 A142 (dg/or) ASD Relay Output..
#20 K108 (wt/tn) Evap Purge Solenoid "signal"..
#21 T24 (bn/yl) TRS-T24 sensor..p/n sensor..
#22 G113 (OR) PTO Switch sensor ..
#23 K29 (wt/pk) Brake switch signal..
#25 K255 (wt/dg) APPS #1 Signal..
#28 A142 (dg/or) ASD Relay "OUTPUT"..
#29 K52 (pk/bk) Evap Purge solenoid Control..
#30 S28 (yl/bk) p/s switch signal..
#32 K118 (pk/yl) Battery Temp. Signal..
#33 G8 (lb/bk) Fuel Level Signal..
#34 V37 (rd/lg) s/c Switch #1 Signal..
#35 K107 (OR) NVLD Switch Signal..
#36 K81 (db/dg) (5.7) APPS #2 Signal..
#37 K31 (BN) Fuel Pump Relay Control.. in: pdc..
#38 T751 (dg/or) Starter Relay Control.. in pdc..

C-4 2003 Hemi Ram ECM Pin-out ..Green Plug..

This is the TCM Plug on 2005 and up Hemi's..
All plug pins on the C-1, C-2 And C-3 are the same for 2003 and 2004.The only
Difference is the color of the wires..I'm going to post them anyway..

PIN#
#3 Y207 (rd/wt) TPS #1 Output..
#5 Y208 (db/yl) APPS #1 "output"..
#7 T10 (Torque Management request sensor..
#9 Y209 (tn/bk) Sensor Ground (-)..
#12 Z13 (bk/rd) Ground (-)..
#13 Z13 (bk/rd) Ground (-)..
#14 Z13 (bk/rd) Ground (-)..

I'm Pretty sure these are all of the wires that go to the 2003 C-4 ECM..
Anyone looking to upgrade a 2003 ecm and tcm to an o4' ecm Need only to
relocate the pins from the tcm to this plug and change the computer..It's that simple..
 
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APPS : Hemi 2003 and 04'...This harness applies when tying the wires into the ecm module from The APPS box...Without this diagram, you won't have a gas pedal..

PIN#
#6 (bn/yl)-#1 Ground-from APPS Box goes to Pin #16 , C-3 Plug..
#5 (bn/wt)-#1 Signal from APPS Box goes to pin #25 , C-3 Plug..
#4 (Bn/vt)-#2 Ground "" " " To Pin #4 , C-3 Plug..
#3 (wt/bn)-#2 Signal-from " " " To pin #36 ,C-3 Plug..
#2 (pk/yl) - Signal-from APPS Box goes to Pin#29, C-2 Plug..
#1 (yl/pk)- Signal- From APPS.. to PIN#27 , C-1 Plug..
If your wiring a 2004 Box to a 2003 Harness These are the wires you'll tie into ..
Pin #6 (bn/yl) to:#16, C-3 (pk/db).. #1 Ground
Pin #5 (bn/wt) To:#25,C-3 (wt.dg)..#1 Signal
Pin #4 (bn/vt) To:#17,C-3 (bn/dg)..#2 Ground
Pin #3 (wt/bn) To: #36, C-3(db/dg)..#2 Signal
Pin# 2 (pk/yl) To: #29, C-2 (OR) ....5- volt supply..
Pin #1 (yl/pk) To: #27, C-1 (vt/wt)..5-volt supply..
 
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I hope someone will do a 2005 Hemi to Gen- II Dakota..I need a Used Hemi Blower.I can't pay $8000.00 for one..
 
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Wow! This is truly amazing, after reading all of the posts and all of the work you had to go through just to get those extra 110 ponies and 58 cubic inches, you should be given some sort of award! If I had more monies i'd love to do something like this on my 2001 Durango. I'm sure your getting a decent jump in MPG's too, my 4.7 gets me about 10.5 to 11 average with only 235 ponies. Hardly justifies the horsepower, but its a V8, so who cares? So I believe I remember you saying "Projekt HEMI Dakota" cost you $2,300?
 
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Originally Posted by MoparMan1991
with only 235 ponies.
at the crank. a the tire you 170ish.
 
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Id say closer to 200. thats with a 15% decrease, maybe 20% if in 4WD or AWD.
 
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i had mine dynoed, intake exhuast, larger tb and superchips, efan at 181 to the tire.
 
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Then these motors arent making 235hp. Theres no way itd have almost 30% power loss.
 


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