PO441 and a momentary rough idle just after startup
#11
I get the P0441 code every 3 months or so. I always clear it and it'll be gone again for a few months. Been that way for years. Over the weekend I visited a junkyard. Pulled an LDP off a 2009 PT Cruiser and a purge valve off a Dakota. Slapped them in and am waiting for the CEL to clear. Tank is full though. Gotta wait till it drops below 3/4 for the checks to run, I believe. Because the code pops so infrequently, I'd rather not clear it as the issue could still be there, but take months to reappear. If it disappears on it's own. That's a good sign.
Edit: 5/1/17 - The light was off when I left work today. Drove home 27 miles and the code was still stored though. Should be gone by tomorrow.
Edit: 5/4/17 - Light still off, but the P0441 code is still present when I scan. I'm still reluctant to clear it. Been driving the truck regularly to work and back.
Edit: 5/1/17 - The light was off when I left work today. Drove home 27 miles and the code was still stored though. Should be gone by tomorrow.
Edit: 5/4/17 - Light still off, but the P0441 code is still present when I scan. I'm still reluctant to clear it. Been driving the truck regularly to work and back.
Last edited by Dodgevity; 05-04-2017 at 07:45 AM.
#12
Long time since posting this issue, but I finally think its solved. P0440 re-appeared the the rough idle got worse, to the point of stalling within first minute of starting, so I reluctantly went to the mechanic-- they smoke tested it-- found a leak in a vacuum line near the purge valve, and I think more importantly, the Lead Detection Pump was bad.. Seems to be running better, 5 starts and about 20 miles later, its not perfect, so I am hoping the PCM is relearning what it has to relearn and will improve.
#13
Long time since posting this issue, but I finally think its solved. P0440 re-appeared the the rough idle got worse, to the point of stalling within first minute of starting, so I reluctantly went to the mechanic-- they smoke tested it-- found a leak in a vacuum line near the purge valve, and I think more importantly, the Lead Detection Pump was bad.. Seems to be running better, 5 starts and about 20 miles later, its not perfect, so I am hoping the PCM is relearning what it has to relearn and will improve.
#14
despite my last note, that low idle/stall issue did not away after my mechanic's last effort. While I think all those issues caused the ultimate problem, which was making the throttle body and IAC sensor, filthy- I did my best to clean it, and now, 6 or 7 starts and it appears to have gone away. I may have caused another problem- the the harness clips fell apart in my hand -- so its taped on to hold it for now.. Not easy to seat that sensor body in straight.. strange to only use one screw, not two. I had to use a mallet to persuade it.
Thanks for the IAC tip.
Now onto figuring out how to eliminate the damn blower resistor from failing -- 3x in 2 years..
Thanks for the IAC tip.
Now onto figuring out how to eliminate the damn blower resistor from failing -- 3x in 2 years..