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illriginalized Nov 10, 2012 06:24 PM

Strong fail on Modern Performance's Mount Inserts
 
Just spent a solid 3 almost 4 hours trying to fit an insert into an Anchor upper torque strut mount. The instructions tells the purchaser to cut out some of the rubber from the mount in order to slide the insert in. It took a lot more than just cutting out some of that rubber. I first started to shave off thin layers of the insert (the two thicker pegs of the insert) til I sliced my thumb with the razor. Stopped my work, headed to my father's workshop, and had to dremel out a crap ton of the insert using one of these:
http://mdm.boschwebservices.com/files/r19743v15.jpg

Only to end up with this crap:
https://i.imgur.com/4NqPyl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FZKxOl.jpg

Nice... so looks like the insert might be too large for the mount. I trimmed not just the insert but also the hard center (where the bolt slides through) in hopes I could get this insert to slide into the mount and stay flush. I even used the clamp in hopes that it would add enough force to slide the insert further into the mount where the bulge is.

I'm going to assume that the problem was with the aftermarket mount. But I have an OEM lower torque strut mount on the way which I plan to use the 2nd insert on. This time I know better not to use a damn razor blade to trim the insert.

I just hope:

A. My mechanic will still attempt to install this mount with that silly looking insert retro fitted into it.

B. That the insert isn't vulnerable due to all the trimming + the bulging out of the mount.


And I don't plan to purchase the tranny mount inserts. I rather use RTV to fill in the gaps. Cheaper, safer to install, quicker to solidify, and more than likely just as good as the inserts.

darthroush Nov 11, 2012 03:11 PM

1. The inserts are not MP brand. They are Prothane that MP sells.
2. There are two sizes of inserts and since you had to go through all of that trouble to get that one in and it still doesn't sit flush, you probably used the wrong one and semi-destroyed your torque strut and insert because of it. All you need to do is remove the flashing material with an Exacto knife and the proper insert will generally go right in, even simply slide in with something like WD-40, and it will sit flush against the torque strut.

illriginalized Nov 12, 2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by darthroush (Post 2905159)
1. The inserts are not MP brand. They are Prothane that MP sells.
2. There are two sizes of inserts and since you had to go through all of that trouble to get that one in and it still doesn't sit flush, you probably used the wrong one and semi-destroyed your torque strut and insert because of it. All you need to do is remove the flashing material with an Exacto knife and the proper insert will generally go right in, even simply slide in with something like WD-40, and it will sit flush against the torque strut.

There's two different sizes for two different cars? Or two different sizes one for the bottom and one for the top torque strut?

If the latter, I tried both inserts, both bigger/wider/thicker nubs of the inserts wouldn't go through. And that was also using WD-40.

I only shaved a little of the center of the torque strut mount but had to chop a lot of the insert.

darthroush Nov 12, 2012 03:13 PM

Two different sizes for the two different torque struts. The top strut and the bottom one. There are also different size nubs, as you call them (not sure what the technical term for them is either), that have to go into the correct spot on the struts. So, you have to have the right insert and then it can only be inserted one way.

illriginalized Nov 12, 2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by darthroush (Post 2905862)
Two different sizes for the two different torque struts. The top strut and the bottom one. There are also different size nubs, as you call them (not sure what the technical term for them is either), that have to go into the correct spot on the struts. So, you have to have the right insert and then it can only be inserted one way.


Yeah I tried. I tried both sides of the motor mount with both inserts. The only nubs that were able to slide in, on both inserts, on both sides of the mount, was the smaller ones (2 small nubs and 2 big nubs) while the larger nubs were a little too thick (not wide).

The only conclusion I have is that it was the anchor (aftermarket) mount, not OEM.

darthroush Nov 12, 2012 03:46 PM

Mine are in Anchor mounts, as are most people's. :)

illriginalized Nov 12, 2012 04:16 PM

Interesting. Well.. I hope it's easier with the lower mount <_<; Comes in on Thursday if I'm not mistaken.

illriginalized Nov 16, 2012 02:36 AM

Bump.

Just a heads up, it was in fact the anchor motor mount after all. Friend also has a Dodge Neon 2005, he needed a new upper mount, got OEM, my insert slipped right in with just a small amount of press.

darthroush Nov 17, 2012 04:29 AM

Did you remove all of the flashing material (you know what that is, right)? Certainly an isolated incident; bummer.

illriginalized Nov 17, 2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by darthroush (Post 2908552)
Did you remove all of the flashing material (you know what that is, right)? Certainly an isolated incident; bummer.

Nope :D

It's all good.


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