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odzmaker 05-27-2016 06:22 PM

and the saga begins...... HFIAG 5409
 
Arrived today. Now I have a 3 day weekend to get it installed. :icon_omg:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/dodgefo...987c0166ba.jpg

stewie01 05-27-2016 06:51 PM

Awesome.

Get it done in 2 and you have the 3rd to play around :D

HeyYou 05-27-2016 07:31 PM

Nice. :D

I would love to have one. But, need to buy heads first.

beeker 05-29-2016 02:56 PM

Don't use the front and rear seals, those don't fit the air gap,those will cause a vacuum leak. Just use a thick bead of RTV. Also don't put any rtv around the intake ports, it will squish out and restrict air flow. Did that on mine and had ro remove later on.

HeyYou 05-29-2016 03:18 PM

A bit of RTV around the coolant passages is a good idea though. :D

odzmaker 05-30-2016 12:37 AM

I'll keep these things in mind when I install it tomorrow.
I got it torn apart and cleaned up today , before it started raining.
Installed new plugs,wires,cap and rotor while I've got everything out of the way.
After I get done on the topside I have to crawl underneath and change the rear main seal too. But no rain in the forecast tomorrow so I should get it all done.
Just glad I didn't break any bolts today.

adukart 05-30-2016 12:58 AM

Let us know how it drives, I am really interested in doing this as well.

odzmaker 05-31-2016 02:42 PM

Bonus ! My brakes work now :D

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/dodgefo...9daccbeb8c.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/dodgefo...a3ee885f13.jpg

jsmith1969 05-31-2016 03:24 PM

Cool, so I guess the install went smoothly?

odzmaker 05-31-2016 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by jsmith1969 (Post 3298659)
Cool, so I guess the install went smoothly?

I'm still having a temperature issue. my gauge is reading 240 the upper radiator hose is hot, and the bottom one can be held with no problem. sooo..... I'm still at a loss as to what's wrong.

HeyYou 05-31-2016 10:12 PM

Check the connector for the one-wire sensor. Make sure it has a good connection, and make sure the sensor grounds to the manifold good.

You can pick up an Infra-Red temp sensor (little gun like feller) and point it at the top of the thermostat housing, to see what temp it REALLY is.

Friar Tuck 05-31-2016 11:22 PM

Take all that stuff off the top of it. I can't see it!!

Friar Tuck 05-31-2016 11:24 PM

What temp tstat?

odzmaker 06-01-2016 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by friar tuck (Post 3298698)
what temp tstat?

192.5

odzmaker 06-01-2016 12:56 AM

I'll try removing the sensor and getting the sealant off . makes me wonder what the other sensor is telling the PCM though.
It hasn't thrown any codes yet and seems to be running ok .

HeyYou 06-01-2016 08:50 AM

The other sensor is two-wire, it just modifies a signal from the PCM, so, that one is prolly working as it should.

odzmaker 06-01-2016 05:14 PM

Well , It finally threw a code #1 miss fire.
All ignition parts are brand new,changed them while I had the intake off.
When I pulled the old plugs #1 was in awful shape like half of the ground electrode had been eaten away.
Gona do a comp.test after the engine cools off for a minute. But I'm starting to think its time to shop for a set of heads (cause if I'm changing the gasket I'm not putting the old ones back on) Sigh.

HeyYou 06-01-2016 05:27 PM

Odessa, or Clearwater make NEW heads, that are better castings than stock. They are regularly for sale on Ebay.

odzmaker 06-01-2016 06:29 PM

1: 120 psi 2: 90 psi
3: 90 psi 4: 125 psi
5: 110 psi 6: 110 psi
7: 90 psi 8: 95 psi

So now I'm starting to think.. ( hell i don't even know what to think anymore) bad Injector ? still no solution on temp yet either. ( wonder if the army surplus has any C-4 in stock)

HeyYou 06-01-2016 08:35 PM

Now do a wet test. Put a tablespoon of oil into each cylinder, and test again. See what the numbers do.

adukart 06-02-2016 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by odzmaker (Post 3298664)
I'm still having a temperature issue. my gauge is reading 240 the upper radiator hose is hot, and the bottom one can be held with no problem. sooo..... I'm still at a loss as to what's wrong.

So your upper radiator hose is hot and the lower radiator hose is cool? Sounds like a clogged radiator to me. If you have access to an infared thermometer I would shoot different parts of the radiator and see what the issue is. You may actually be overheating, not just a bad reading.

kraven 06-06-2016 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by HeyYou (Post 3298784)
Odessa, or Clearwater make NEW heads, that are better castings than stock. They are regularly for sale on Ebay.

Yeah, both my heads were garbage, and I was really happy with the quality of the EQ parts I replaced them with. Don at 4secondsflat.com has a meh website, but when you call him you're talking to a guy with decades of Mopar experience. That's where I got mine, and bought my own valvetrain parts.

All the threaded locations on the heads were right on the money. The valve seats were concentric. Great parts. I wouldn't ever spend money on fixing or reman'ing stock parts for these engines.

1997JollyGreenGiant 06-07-2016 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by odzmaker (Post 3298789)
1: 120 psi 2: 90 psi
3: 90 psi 4: 125 psi
5: 110 psi 6: 110 psi
7: 90 psi 8: 95 psi

So now I'm starting to think.. ( hell i don't even know what to think anymore) bad Injector ? still no solution on temp yet either. ( wonder if the army surplus has any C-4 in stock)

Wow! your compression numbers are worse than mine!

Well, if they don't have your C-4, you can always park it in an empty field, load it up with exploding targets, and have some fun with it. Just be sure to get it on video. ;-)

UnregisteredUser 06-07-2016 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by 1997JollyGreenGiant (Post 3299339)
Well, if they don't have your C-4, you can always park it in an empty field, load it up with exploding targets, and have some fun with it.

Thermite's quieter fun. :D

adukart 06-07-2016 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by UnregisteredUser (Post 3299380)
quieter

:icon_shrug: But yes thermite = :icon_mrgreen:

Friar Tuck 06-08-2016 03:31 AM

Tablespoon of oil made me think of my Grandma and her Castor Oil!

HeyYou 06-08-2016 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Friar Tuck (Post 3299429)
Tablespoon of oil made me think of my Grandma and her Castor Oil!

Go ahead and take this sweety, it's good for what ails ya. :D

1997JollyGreenGiant 06-09-2016 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by UnregisteredUser (Post 3299380)
Thermite's quieter fun. :D

Agreed! That stuff is awesome!


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