Aftermarket Transmission Oil Cooler
I have a 1999 dodge ram 1500 that is getting the transmission rebuilt. When I dropped the pan the ATF was silver and full of metal debris. I need to replace the entire radiator as the trans cooling lines are an integrated part of the radiator and i suspect the radiator is full of debris (and i was told to get it replaced before i get the rebuilt one back). My question was, is there and aftermarket transmission oil cooler that is on the market meant for my truck? Any advice would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415484)
I have a 1999 dodge ram 1500 that is getting the transmission rebuilt. When I dropped the pan the ATF was silver and full of metal debris. I need to replace the entire radiator as the trans cooling lines are an integrated part of the radiator and i suspect the radiator is full of debris (and i was told to get it replaced before i get the rebuilt one back). My question was, is there and aftermarket transmission oil cooler that is on the market meant for my truck? Any advice would be awesome.
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When you say a bit of time do you mean just getting the lines to fit for the aftermarket oil cooler? I suppose you could run some sort of extension from the oil cooler to the lines themselves and it would work that way?
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Just have the shop install one of theres or recommended.Much easier plus a warranty.Just a thought.................
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Originally Posted by cruzer55
(Post 3415601)
Just have the shop install one of theres or recommended.Much easier plus a warranty.Just a thought.................
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Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415602)
That would be the route to go... however the transmission is being rebuilt as we speak and I have no way of getting the entire truck to a shop at this point.
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
(Post 3415610)
If you decide to install one yourself let me know I'll help you through the process :)
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Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415614)
Have you installed one yourself? I was just curious if anyone had a bought one that worked for them? |
Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
(Post 3415615)
I've done them before on vehicles. They all will work for you. You just need a decent sized one since it's a truck.
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https://www.partsgeek.com/kw66z5h-do...ion+Oil+Cooler
Would something like this work for my truck? |
Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415619)
https://www.partsgeek.com/kw66z5h-do...ion+Oil+Cooler
Would something like this work for my truck? |
I just realized something, the cooler lines go through the radiator, then through the trans cooler radiator. I just need to replace the trans cooler radiator, I think ill just bypass the radiator itself as I dont want to buy a whole other radiator, as mine is more than likely full of gunk from when my tranny kicked the bucket. So I just need to find a bigger aftermarket trans cooler for the truck itself.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415634)
I just realized something, the cooler lines go through the radiator, then through the trans cooler radiator. I just need to replace the trans cooler radiator, I think ill just bypass the radiator itself as I dont want to buy a whole other radiator, as mine is more than likely full of gunk from when my tranny kicked the bucket. So I just need to find a bigger aftermarket trans cooler for the truck itself.
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Get the stacked plate style, not the tube in fin style. When my transmission was rebuilt the tube in fin style couldn't keep the fluid cool enough, swapped it for the stacked plate style and it stays dead on 176º. The lines are rubber and are clamped to the transmission lines. I believe the transmission cooler (the little one in front of the radiator) was part of the tow package from Dodge, mine was built into the radiator. |
Originally Posted by Sheriff420
(Post 3415662)
https://www.amazon.com/70268-SuperCo...ustomerReviews
Get the stacked plate style, not the tube in fin style. When my transmission was rebuilt the tube in fin style couldn't keep the fluid cool enough, swapped it for the stacked plate style and it stays dead on 176º. The lines are rubber and are clamped to the transmission lines. I believe the transmission cooler (the little one in front of the radiator) was part of the tow package from Dodge, mine was built into the radiator. |
Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415675)
Did that amazon link work for your truck? My truck does have the little cooler in front of the radiator and mine does have the tow package so it makes sense. Did you then completely bypass your radiator and went with the trans cooler itself? |
Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
(Post 3415677)
The cooler in the trans is really just to heat up the fluid. That's why you need it in colder climates. You can over cool your transmission as it has to be at a certain degree before you get overdrive. Just remember placement of the cooler is important but will also affect other things and how well it is cooled. The best place is in front of everything but may affect your A/C. I upgraded my cooler kept it in the factory spot and installed a temp gauge before and after the cooler to monitor the temps. I also installed an electric helper fan out front to push air through everything (like the later 1st gen Durango's had). I actually used the Durango fan.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Laforge
(Post 3415706)
I live in Montana and the winters can be harsh, so the cooler that goes into the radiator actually keeps it at a warmer temperature so it doesn't get too cold? So it probably wouldn't be wise to bypass the radiator. |
The B&M is the same (and only) cooler I have. It's mounted in the front so it's the first thing to catch air. It is connected directly to the transmission lines with the check ball removed from them. The transmission guy is the one that put it on my truck.
The only issue I have is that I have to put my truck in neutral for about 10 seconds on a cold start because without the check ball the fluid drains out and I have a no/sluggish go for the first take off if I don't wait. I live in NC where nights average high 20's and low 30's in the coldest part of winter. |
Originally Posted by Sheriff420
(Post 3415748)
The B&M is the same (and only) cooler I have. It's mounted in the front so it's the first thing to catch air. It is connected directly to the transmission lines with the check ball removed from them. The transmission guy is the one that put it on my truck.
The only issue I have is that I have to put my truck in neutral for about 10 seconds on a cold start because without the check ball the fluid drains out and I have a no/sluggish go for the first take off if I don't wait. I live in NC where nights average high 20's and low 30's in the coldest part of winter. |
The radiator cooler isn't hooked up.
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Originally Posted by Sheriff420
(Post 3415900)
The radiator cooler isn't hooked up.
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It's been 7 years now and it's shifting like it did before all those 7k to 10k pound pulls that burned up my old transmission. The guy that rebuilt mine said that he wouldn't warranty a 2nd gen ram transmission rebuild if the owner insisted that the check ball stay on the lines but he said that he thought it was best for me to have the aftermarket cooler.
If overcooling knocking out overdrive were a concern then you wouldn't have overdrive in a factory setup until you got about 10 minutes down the road in winter because the radiator doesn't warm up until the thermostat opens up. I've had mine warming up long enough for me to scrape the ice off the windows (probably 20º) then hopped in and booked it down the road with no overdrive issues and no heat until I was half way to work. |
Originally Posted by Sheriff420
(Post 3415954)
It's been 7 years now and it's shifting like it did before all those 7k to 10k pound pulls that burned up my old transmission. The guy that rebuilt mine said that he wouldn't warranty a 2nd gen ram transmission rebuild if the owner insisted that the check ball stay on the lines but he said that he thought it was best for me to have the aftermarket cooler.
If overcooling knocking out overdrive were a concern then you wouldn't have overdrive in a factory setup until you got about 10 minutes down the road in winter because the radiator doesn't warm up until the thermostat opens up. I've had mine warming up long enough for me to scrape the ice off the windows (probably 20º) then hopped in and booked it down the road with no overdrive issues and no heat until I was half way to work. Also, given that most 95 and older trucks, the PCM doesn't have a clue what trans temp is...... I am quite sure it doesn't wait. :D |
Originally Posted by Sheriff420
(Post 3415954)
It's been 7 years now and it's shifting like it did before all those 7k to 10k pound pulls that burned up my old transmission. The guy that rebuilt mine said that he wouldn't warranty a 2nd gen ram transmission rebuild if the owner insisted that the check ball stay on the lines but he said that he thought it was best for me to have the aftermarket cooler.
If overcooling knocking out overdrive were a concern then you wouldn't have overdrive in a factory setup until you got about 10 minutes down the road in winter because the radiator doesn't warm up until the thermostat opens up. I've had mine warming up long enough for me to scrape the ice off the windows (probably 20º) then hopped in and booked it down the road with no overdrive issues and no heat until I was half way to work.
Originally Posted by HeyYou
(Post 3415960)
Yeah, according to theory, (and the FSM) the PCM won't go into O/D until trans temp reaches 108 degrees. However, I don't think that is correct, as my truck will shift into overdrive within a mile of my house, even on the coldest days. (sub-zero temps..... sometimes double digit sub-zero temps.....) Unless trans fluids heats up REAL fast, there is no way that it gets to 108 degrees in less than 500 feet. (I don't let my truck sit and idle to warm up, can't afford the gas for that.... it already gets horrible gas mileage.) And that goes for both my 96 with the 5.9 gas, and also my 98 with the 8.0.
Also, given that most 95 and older trucks, the PCM doesn't have a clue what trans temp is...... I am quite sure it doesn't wait. :D |
Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
(Post 3416015)
My truck reaches 108 within 3 minutes of starting that's in 32° weather
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
(Post 3416045)
Hhhhmmmm...... If I had a scanner that would tell me that info, I would be REAL curious to monitor it some morning. :) I hit 45 mph or so within about a minute, minute and a half, of startup.
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
(Post 3416045)
Hhhhmmmm...... If I had a scanner that would tell me that info, I would be REAL curious to monitor it some morning. :) I hit 45 mph or so within about a minute, minute and a half, of startup.
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My engine most certainly does not hit 108 in 60-90 seconds on those truly cold michigan winter days...... :D
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
(Post 3416115)
My engine most certainly does not hit 108 in 60-90 seconds on those truly cold michigan winter days...... :D
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