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Ok, I'm looking into finally getting one of these little buggers Stage 2.

I want to know what mods you have, if you installed the chip after the other mods. Because I currently have K&N 63 and dual flows... putting in the cooler stat Tuesday...

What are mileage differences? Like, highway mileage, if you don't romp on it, was there a noticeable increase or decrease in mileage?

I really don't care about in town driving mileage.. as I hardly ever drive in town. And when I do, I get like 10mpg as is. So, like I said, I really don't care about the in town mileage.... I just want to know what to expect performance and mileage wise...

I also am looking into getting an electric fan as well. :-)

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well, french dip... I dont have a stage 2, but I do have a stage 1. My mileage is about the same... I lost a little in town, but thats prolly due to other variables. I did gain throttle response, which was needed badly.

I have t stat, exhaust, and intake... I say its worth it, but its not my moolah.

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i kinda want to add onto that i have the same mods as frenchy but what kind of fan are you looking at? its gonna be hard to fit one thats worth anything i would think...

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I dunno man, a lot of people have switched to electric fans... I don't know which one they switched to, but I know it's been done...

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ive gave my opinion on chips before, and ill give it again....personally, i woudnt put a chip in my truck, or any of my vehicles for that matter. your better off imo gettin some LTs (if they have them out for our trucks) exhaust (which u have), some type of high flow air induction (which i think u already have), cam, and all the little things to go with it...if u want some real power, and have the money for it, go to a shop and have a custome sc or turbo built ect and get it dynotuned......u may have to travel to get a good tune though.......maybe the reason im so pro active for dynotuning, (which i believe someone of a few of u kind of said it wasnt worth it) is because Ed Wright is here in tulsa and is one of the best in the nation...

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i can say that before my cams the chip was a benefit. but if you go with the stage 2 you will need the 180 stat. also look at the price of gas in your area. stage 2 requirers 93 octane for optimal gains. i am kicking my self now because the 93 in ct, is between 3.30 and 3.50 a gallon. looking into a 4 banger to goto work and back in. i have the k/n 63 with the 3 inch catback. the chip helped out a lot with the low end grunt.but wait and get the fastman tb. this will be an improvement until gas is cheaper. as far as mileage was getting 360/380 to a tank 21/22 on the highway and 17/18 around town try relocating your iat sensor first. this will boost more power out of engine.

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I'm actually looking into roller rockers right now...

For myself I'm gonna look into starting there..

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forget the roller rockers we already have either 1.7 or 1.8 i cant remember. but when my cams were installed i did not need to move up in size.

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Are they rollers though? Or are they not? I'd really like to have rollers....

How can I go about finding out, if you don't recall?

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normal flat tappet rockers. dont know if the rollers will work with out swapping out the valve covers. they might be to high

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Hrmm... agian, how would one find out if different valve covers would be needed? Is there anyway to know?

I'd really like to get the rollers.

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Double post, from what I've been reading they will fit under the stock valve covers...

So hrmm..

Are these things worth it? I don't really understand internal parts... help me out?

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r/r are totally worth it if you have the money.

I also agree with nighterunner, but I dont 5-7 K to drop on a turbo and dyno tune right now. I also like teh driveablility of the truck as it is... adding a turbo changes the driveability to more of the aggressive side, as thats what the turbo does. creates boots under throttle... nuff of that. good post N/R.. I just wanted to add that.

Frenchy, I say do your homework and decide what you want out of your truck. if you want to race it, and be just plain fast. start pulling the internals out and building up the motor. Obviousle a cam makes a HUGE difference. you can also switch to roller rockers and port and polish while you have it apart.

If you dont want huge performance gains... a T.B. 'Stat and chip will probably do you just fine.

my $0.02

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I want the ability to go fast..

I really don't drive fast, I'd just love to be able to have the POWA there when if I need it. Ya know...

EDIT:

What does port and polish mean??? I've heard this EVERYWHERE, and just never really took the time to read up on what is involved, and what it does.

RE: Want real world input. Jet Chip.
 

port and polish is when you take the heads of and port and polish them to make the air flow better. and it adds more power.

but ya, I would do a cam, roller rockers, port polish at the same time. cause since you will have the motor apart anyways, you may as well do those mods while your in there.

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Is there a specific shop I should look into bringing my truck to, to do this port and polish thing? If I do all this, I'll just buy all the parts over the summer, and wait til fall to install them, while in my auto shop.

How do you polish and port the heads?

Can I do it in my auto shop?

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Well, I have seen a few DIY threads on port and polish... it looks like a job, but since you are in autoshop... maybe you will have the right tools to do it....

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you need a die grinder dremel, calipers,/micrometer and loads of time and a good teacher. Whatlevel of autoshop do you have, and how cool is the teacher? I teach auto and If a student asked me to do a P&P I would not let em. Not because I would think its over their head but there is tons of liability involved with that job. It all comes back the teacher when things go wrong and schools generally dont allow that kind of work done. \Unless its a wyotech type of school that specializes in that line of work. Just some imput from the other side of the desk.but It doesn't hurt to ask.

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hahaha... I am watching "thank god your here"... Mildly amusing.

Anyhoo, frenchy, I looked at some places in the T.C. area, and I havent found a shop that will do it for you... RAT racing will, but you have to pull the parts and bring them in.

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How much, and how would I get to the shop? lol...

I may have a place up here, that can do that.

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for our motors port and polish is a waste of time. if you big internally then it is a necessity. but if you leave the stock bottom end why bother. so you get more air into a stock combustion chamber. then what. just get the cams and a throttle body and you will be fine. b & g has a fantastic flash for 400.00 when you get the parts installed

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Well, thing is, I'm trying to go with most power and MPG at the same time....

Someone told me that adding the TB will destroy my mileage... I'm planning on driving it a lot this summer... so I need to have someway to save mileage... if I can't I'd rather take power... but if I can, how can I do both?

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frenchy frenchy frenchy...that IS the question. it's called sacrifice. OH WOW this CAI gives me more h.p. AND gas mileage...OH WOW this exhaust gives me more power AND gas mileage... THIS throttle body and THESE tires and THIS bed cover yadda yadda yadda. It all boils down to you either mod your truck for power or you dont. your not gonna get the speed you want and increase gas mileage... you can only keep it in the same zone. if you dont supercharge, nas, or turbo it...you're fine if you ask me.

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Well, I dont think a P&P is a waste of time. it is a lot like a T stat. it may not get a huge gain, but it helps prep your motor for future mods. better flow means more efficient, even if its only slightly, it helps when you decide to do other mods. When you need to pump more air, the smoothest passage into the combustion chamber is best. nobody disagrees with this... I am not saying it is a must do mod, but if you are looking for a more efficient air pump, it is a great mod to do...