whats this i hear that we (dodge people) are gonna lose the cummins to ford????? i hope ford dont get it!!! well what i hear is it true????

 

Your source is an idiot. Dodge is putting a brand new Cummins in the trucks for 2007. Furd can have all the Cummins engines they want, bought at retail, just like anyone else.

Straight from the company's (internal but officially announced) site:

Offering leading commercial performance, the all-new 2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Chassis Cab offers two powerful, legendary engine choices: the new 6.7-liter Cummins High Output Turbo Diesel with 305 horsepower and 610 lb.-ft. of torque, or the HEMI V-8 gasoline engine with best-in-class (for V-8 gasoline engines) 330 horsepower and 375 lb.-ft. of torque.

See? Now go tell your source where they can get off!

 

I sure hope Dodge and Cummins play a "oh... look at that... we said it would make 305HP and 610lb*ft, but, for some reason, it makes more than that!" when they release the 07's, because, quite frankly, moving to a larger motor, and keeping the same torque and LOSING horses is kinda stupid.
Current Cummins: 5.9L I6. 325HP 610lb*ft
Future Cummins: 6.7L I6 305HP 610lb*ft
Current Duramax: 6.6L V8 360HP 650lb*ft (Allison auto) 300HP 520lb*ft (standard)
Current Powerstroke: 6.0L V8 325HP 570lb*ft

It sad to admit, but in 2007, Dodge will not be top in HP or Torque (reliability, yes) for the diesels.
Hopefully Cummins works some quick magic on that 6.7L.
*edit*
I wonder if the new engine has anything to do with the new 2007 rules for diesels... hmm...

 

This wont be the exact same engine in the next gen trucks. The next 6.7 will be tuned to over 700ft/lb of torque.

 

I believe you're right, the new engine is more about meeting emissions than anything. I also wondered if it uses more than one fuel pre-charge. Volvo (I think?) did research that showed that multiple pre-charges make them (diesels in general) quieter.

Also, when the Cummins was rated at 505 lb/ft of torque, "Motor Trend's Truck Trend" dynoed it at 700lb/ft. It may not dyno like that this time but, as long as your state doesn't do sniffer test to get tags, I bet there is a ton of potential to be tapped into just like the 5.9L.

 

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!






I wish I could go just one year without hearing somebody tell me they heard this rumor.
And then there is the "Ford owns Cummins" rumor... who believes this crap?!

 

Thank God HemiMan4451 was here because I was wondering WHY IN THE BLEEP would dodge put a BIGGER CTD engine in their truck that used more fuel and produced EQUAL torque and LESS horsepower than the current? There was no way they would be that stupid. I wouldn't buy one out of sheer anger at their stupidity. If they got a better engine, it BETTER have more torque and horsepower.

 

Exactly, which is why there is a bigger engine this time...

 

obviously, you got .8 more liter of diesel into the engine. thats gunna give it more power and torque, it can't go down

 

I don't think you got what they were asking. There is a 6.7 Cummins out right now in the 3500 Chassis cab. It produces less hp, and the same tq. I was saying the next gen trucks will have a more powerful 6.7.