Viper news!!!!
#81
#82
RE: Viper news!!!!
The Viper started with a V10, still has it, and perhaps should for a long time. It's what Dodge has that Chevy doesn't. It's not about "having to have a V10 to produce enough power". That's what the V8 Hemi does. Does Chevy or Ford have an engine around 5.7L that produces 345 HP? Note that there is headroom. I'm sure you could get 400 HP without breaking a sweat. Chrysler has always been known for slightly underrating (a 340 HP Chrysler rating might read more like 350 HP on a dyno). Now, what they could do with the Viper is give it an uber big block V8 hemi (8.0L+) and make it "blower-ready". Still, I like the Viper's V10, and it's market. Making the Viper mainstream is absolutely ridiculous. That would take so much out of the Viper name. I think Dodge should downsize the displacement on the Viper (closer to maybe 7.6L/7.7L) and turbocharge/twin turbocharge. Supercharging isn't really effective enough to be worth the hassle in my opinion. While it provides better low-end torque than turbos, it isn't as efficient, and in the Viper's case which has more than a sufficient amount of low-end torque, supercharging seems to non-Chrysler in practive. A 8.4L engine needs A LOT of air, and turbocharging that would put the Viper over 750 HP, and twin-turbocharging even over 800 HP depending on how big the turbos are. Raising the compression ratio is another option, but raise it over 10.5:1 and you have to question how long the engine will last.
#83
RE: Viper news!!!!
A few points I would like to make. The previous engine offered in the Corvette was known as the LS1, it was a 5.7L which produced 350hp & 365ft-lbs of tq. The LS6 version of the GM 5.7L produced 405hp & 405ft-lbs of tq. The best version of the HEMI to compare and contrast with would be the 392 (6.4L) if you wanted to make a point about Chrysler not needing a V10 to produce serious hp & tq.
As much as I hate to say it, when the Viper was in production theyhad to go with a V10 because back then they didn't have a serious offering from their V8 lines. Back then the best they had was the 360 (5.9L) V8. It wasn't powerful enough to fulfill the Viper's needs. The V10 is based off of the 360's family and from what I have read uses technology from the 340, its from the same family just different heads and stuff. The V10 actually still has a lot of untapped potiental yet left in it. The compression is still low in comparison to the Vette and from what I've observed it still doesn't have a lot of high tech components. Also, Chrysler has shown that while making mild changes, they are able to boost an extra 75hp & 90ft-lbs of tq.
Nowdays, Dodge has a V8 that could properly power the Viper, but they shouldn't change it because the V10 is part of the Viper's personality.
Also have you ever heard of the Hennesey modified Vipers? Those are twin-turboed and produce over 1000hp.
As much as I hate to say it, when the Viper was in production theyhad to go with a V10 because back then they didn't have a serious offering from their V8 lines. Back then the best they had was the 360 (5.9L) V8. It wasn't powerful enough to fulfill the Viper's needs. The V10 is based off of the 360's family and from what I have read uses technology from the 340, its from the same family just different heads and stuff. The V10 actually still has a lot of untapped potiental yet left in it. The compression is still low in comparison to the Vette and from what I've observed it still doesn't have a lot of high tech components. Also, Chrysler has shown that while making mild changes, they are able to boost an extra 75hp & 90ft-lbs of tq.
Nowdays, Dodge has a V8 that could properly power the Viper, but they shouldn't change it because the V10 is part of the Viper's personality.
Also have you ever heard of the Hennesey modified Vipers? Those are twin-turboed and produce over 1000hp.
#85
RE: Viper news!!!!
you could orderany dodgefrom the us and have it shipped over there, but im guessing it would be expensive to do, and im guessing yall drive on the wrong side of the road like all other european countries (jk i just had to take a poke at you) so converting it over to RHD would be even more expensive, but if you have the money and really want one, you could do it and you would have one of the only ones in your country, which would be pretty cool.
#86
RE: Viper news!!!!
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Has anyone ever seen dodge dealers jack the prices on any cars in their line-up? Only companies I've seen do it is Chevy and Ford ...
Has anyone ever seen dodge dealers jack the prices on any cars in their line-up? Only companies I've seen do it is Chevy and Ford ...
1992 and 1993 Vipers, some went for over 100K for a car that stickered for 55K.
Not Dodge but DC, hold on to your hats.... PT Cruiser when they first came out.
Next up, I predict if you want a Challenger SRTin the first month or two you will pay at least sticker and probably more. I will wait a year