anyway to disable the sentry key system
OK i don't care if its a computer flash or whatever. somewhere there is an input to be toggled to disable this pos. Has anyone done it. if so point me in the right direction i refuse to pay $100 for keys. and i dont want to be sent to ebay or told how to program keys. i want the sentry system GONE!!!
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I seriously doubt that this will ever happen.
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I think Aftermarket Alarm system can do that. they give u a Box to Store a transponder key in, tap it into the Transponder key system, it Fools the Computer that a "Non-chipped" key you insert to the ignition cyln is a transponder key, because it is reading the transponder code from the key Hiding behind the dash.
But than again, Alarms system with Transponder By Pass Module are NOT cheap. so is finding a Decent installer that doesn't **** up ur car. Also, I've personally Tried, If you have 1 Black key, and 1 Grey (Transponder) key, You CAN touch the Grey key to the Black Key, and the Black key will Start the Vehicle. So i am thinking, If you take apart ur Ignition Cyln and WIN module, take some Copper wires, Wrap the Grey key around the ignition cyln, ANY KEY you can turn the ignition cylnder with will be recognized as a Transponder key. |
Thats what i have been finding that the easiest route to this is simply hide the gray key in the column so that the rfid is read from it and then any key will work. If anyone has a schematic (a good schematic) of the caliber i know i could figure out how to bypass it permanently. so if you have one or can find one please share
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Just curious as to why you would want to disable an good anti-theft device if you don't mind me asking???
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Originally Posted by csjjeep
(Post 2464647)
Thats what i have been finding that the easiest route to this is simply hide the gray key in the column so that the rfid is read from it and then any key will work. If anyone has a schematic (a good schematic) of the caliber i know i could figure out how to bypass it permanently. so if you have one or can find one please share
Take out the Upper and Lower Steering Column Cover behind the Steering wheel, it will Expose the Ignition Cylinder and the Skreem/WCM. The WCM is the computer box with a Plastic Ring around the Key Cylinder. The Ring is the Coil that Picks up the Security Code from ur Transponder key. and Ignition Cylinder Simply reads the Position of the Key, Off/Acc/ON/Start Removed the WCM, Tape ur Key INSIDE the WCM ring, and relocate the WCM. it should work. |
Originally Posted by lxman1
(Post 2465368)
Just curious as to why you would want to disable an good anti-theft device if you don't mind me asking???
second if a key is lost you can be stranded because of it. third if this system fails you again are stranded. Lets face it its a 2007 caliber if someone wants to steal it go ahead thats why i have insurance. |
Fair enough. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by csjjeep
(Post 2466257)
not at all first i don't consider any device that cost you $100 plus a key good.
second if a key is lost you can be stranded because of it. third if this system fails you again are stranded. Lets face it its a 2007 caliber if someone wants to steal it go ahead thats why i have insurance. There are 500+ components in ur car that can also fail which can cause no start, what's one more? and the transponder key system probably have to lowest failure rate overall. I know Transponder keys are expensive, but what isn't expensive nowaday? just look at Gasoline price for example, but unfortunately we need it. |
Originally Posted by steak59
(Post 2466488)
Well, if you lose a key in a Non-transponder Key car, you are stranded, what's the difference?
There are 500+ components in ur car that can also fail which can cause no start, what's one more? and the transponder key system probably have to lowest failure rate overall. I know Transponder keys are expensive, but what isn't expensive nowaday? just look at Gasoline price for example, but unfortunately we need it. I know there are plenty of issues that will leave me stranded and i except that and i can fix everyone of them. Yes everything is expensive even more my point why i refuse to pay that much for something that shouldn't be expensive. |
This is why after I bought all 3 of my new Dodges back in 08, I got on eBay and bought a grey transponder blank key for about $20 each. Had my local Walmart cut them for free a
then programmed each one to each vehicle. This way I have 3 for each one so if one gets lost, I always have 2 good ones to reprogram a third without paying the high price of going to the dealer for a new key. But, your way will work too. |
o yeah, i forgot about the feature which you can program ur 3rd key if you have 2 working keys. and Aftermarket transponder keys are cheap, ilco the brand most common brand i've seen.
The manufacturer says the real reason behind transponder key is Fleets and Rental car co. doesn't want their customers to easily make new keys. |
That makes sense since they only give you one key when renting.
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Because the system is a piece of crap? It disables your car for no reason, and only the dealer can undo it. Reason enough!
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I have 3 with the system as do several family members and none have ever had an issue with the system.
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You wont like whats comming then. You pretty much are no longer going to beable to use aftermarket radios in new cars due to whole system revolves around the factory touch screen radio now(yea makes sense but we dont want people texting and driving but EVERY new car now has touch screens). You will not bypass/disable this system and are forced to either tape chip to the pickup or have a custom ECM/PCM/TCM/ABS/PASSLOCK/CC/PW/PL computer made to your liking in order to operate all the systems.This system was implemented in all cars to help cut down on car thefts overall but was taken to extremes.Same with the air bags/ABS/seatbelt systems.I would try to find a CAN/PCM builder and even then your going to dish out price of 20 keys just on a custom programmed PCM and even then conflicts and bugs will need to be worked out.Seems like a huge undertaken being this isnt a track/modified vehicle but you got the funds someone will build you a custom PCM.Your really going to hate it when all vehicles are required to have GPS so they can monitor your body weight,how you drive,what music you listen to while driving,how hard you brake or accelerate and combine that with local maps to find out what fuel stations you choose or what stores you visit(on-star already does this and has full control of your vehicle just so you are able to push a button and talk to someone, they call it for your safety so you ignore the real reason)Yes they already have your personal info and are able to sale driving habits back to your insurance company or any other company who is willing to pay them.....If you want technology it comes at more cost then you know.In all just go to a home depot and have your Chip fequency/key cloned and wont need dealer reprogramming.Or put chip key in IGN and leave it there, have 2 door keys cut and place one on body somewhere and use other to unlock doors so you never loose your chip key.Then again I am guessing you still want that keyless entry fob .......Which also uses chip in key so you will end up without keyless entry with a custom PCM. Seems like a huge headache to get all upset over....
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Originally Posted by fpuhala
(Post 3040426)
Because the system is a piece of crap? It disables your car for no reason, and only the dealer can undo it. Reason enough!
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Just my .02
I had my key reader go out in my caliber when it was about 2 years old. I had to have the car towed to the dealer where they figured out it if had gone bad.the car only had 30k or less on it. Now I've had it recently refuse to start in two incidences repitivrly. Till like magic it rolled over. Now I'm wondering if it's going out again, or I'm having a different issue. I wish I could disable it as well. At least have the option.i did do what lxman did, I bought a generic key on eBay and programmed it so I have 3 keys in case. |
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