Dodge Caravan The Dodge Caravan is the best selling mini van from Dodge. How many Dodge Caravan owners here at DodgeForum.com would agree? Discuss it now!

[4th Gen : 01-07]: 2003 grand caravan trans problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-31-2014, 04:09 PM
jack1023's Avatar
jack1023
jack1023 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question 2003 grand caravan trans problem

i have a 03 grand caravan 184000 miles the trans shifts fine when cold but after it warms up some it will down shift i think into 1st gear and stay there, tach will to about 3500 rpm and drops when foot is off the gas.
trans was low about 3 weeks ago and i added 1 qt. of type 4 fluid.
any help [no check eng. light on]
 
  #2  
Old 03-31-2014, 05:22 PM
cv2003's Avatar
cv2003
cv2003 is offline
Veteran
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Here are some questions.
Did you have this same problem before adding the fluid? And if so, did anything change after adding the quart?
Did you use the procedure described in the owner's manual for checking the fluid level? If not, how did you check the level?
When you said "type 4", was it specifically ATF+4 fluid?
 
  #3  
Old 03-31-2014, 06:21 PM
jack1023's Avatar
jack1023
jack1023 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

yes the type was atf +4
checked the level with var running and in park after putting it into drive and rev. them back to park.
before it would down shift hard into 1st sometimes. [more often if you stop quickly]
 
  #4  
Old 03-31-2014, 07:53 PM
cv2003's Avatar
cv2003
cv2003 is offline
Veteran
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Just one other thing on the fluid check you did. The check needs to be done either completely cold (using the cold marks on the dip stick), or fully warmed up after driving 25+ minutes (using the hot marks). I'll assume you did it one of those 2 ways. The tranny shouldn't "use" fluid, so that means you likey have a fluid leak. One thing that might fit both the shifting problems and a fluid leak is a bad solenoid, which is not an uncommon problem as these vans get older. Do you see any fluid drips, or spots underneath the van? If so, it should be fairly easy to find out if it's coming from the solenoid.
 
  #5  
Old 03-31-2014, 09:09 PM
Cougar41's Avatar
Cougar41
Cougar41 is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,258
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

"Limp mode" limits shifting to 1st, 2nd, and reverse gears. Is that what you have? Check engine light?
 
  #6  
Old 04-13-2014, 06:51 PM
jack1023's Avatar
jack1023
jack1023 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

changed fluid and filter used +4 van ran the same only 2nd gear all the time.
one week later changed the solenoid and now it seams to be worst. get rev. gear right away but have to wait for drive. and now it revs up a lot more .
?????????
 
  #7  
Old 04-13-2014, 11:17 PM
cv2003's Avatar
cv2003
cv2003 is offline
Veteran
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Did you actually find a leak coming from the solenoid before you replaced it? If not, do you see it leaking from somewhere else? What did you find in the bottom of the pan and on the magnet? Was there anything other than a thin layer of sludge? Any metal or other solids of any kind in there? If there was nothing bad in the pan, next you could check the TCM connector. These connectors have been reported by some folks to be corroded enough to cause problems similar to what you describe. If the connector is ok, those of us who like to hang parts would probably try a reman TCM, which is available from the auto computer outfits for $200 or less.
 
  #8  
Old 04-13-2014, 11:53 PM
jack1023's Avatar
jack1023
jack1023 is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

pan was clean nothing on the magnet. fluid was clean with no burnt smell.
how do you check the tmc and where is it located ?
 
  #9  
Old 04-14-2014, 12:40 AM
master tech's Avatar
master tech
master tech is offline
Site Moderator & Tech
Dodge Forum Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Near Sacramento,ca
Posts: 11,545
Likes: 0
Received 92 Likes on 78 Posts
Default

Your transmission is going into limp in or fail safe mode. Does the transmission have any leaks? Maybe the front pump area? Next I would have the Transmission Control Module (TCM) scan for active or stored codes. Also have the Clutch Volume Index (CVI) checked and post the information and have a clutch test done. With the high mileage you have on the transmission, it maybe time for a overhaul kit.
 



Quick Reply: [4th Gen : 01-07]: 2003 grand caravan trans problem



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:24 PM.