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Old 11-12-2011, 12:29 AM
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Hey master tech, I have the post on misfire, 06 with 3.8 would like for you and dodge22 to read it and give me some ideas if you have time, thanks,
 
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:38 AM
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I'm sorry to say dodge22 isn't posting anymore. Let me know what is going on this way I can help.
 
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Old 11-12-2011, 12:56 AM
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read my post on misfire on 06 gc with 3. I have done just about everything i can think of, thought maybe you or dogde might have some ideas that i havent done. I used to race 4cyl also years ago, and he is very smart about things
 
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Old 11-12-2011, 01:28 AM
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I read your post, You could have a bad valve seat or burnt valve. Have you inspected the injector wire harness?
 
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I added to post late last night, did leak down, almost 0% leakage, can' be burnt valve, would think that would show up under compression, and leakdown. injectors are being pulsed same all the way across, each one, wiring looked fine,
 
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The more exposure the better. Try:

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This one gives me all asterisks when I type it then post it for some reason - dodge then talk.com - all one word minus the "then"
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But this is one of those odd ball problem where it pass all conventional test.
You mentioned the compression gauge fluctuate slightly on cyln 1 compare to others, even tho it gave you 180 PSI.
maybe you got a worn rocker arm, try swap it out?
I would say only diagnostic test you can run without pulling engine apart is if you have a Sun Scope from the old days to check spark voltage wave form. That machine tells you wether you have bad coil, lean/rich condition, or mechanical problem.
Another Tool popular in the trade now is a Pressure transducer on a Scope, if you heard of it. It give you a wave form of Cyln pressure rise/drop in millisecond. While our mechanical compression gauge only give us a Peak pressure.
For example, what if you exhaust valve isnt opening properly? you still will have the right peak Compression pressure and No cyln leak.

Other than that, only thing left is a bad PCM(very unlikely), or engine mechanical failure. Thank god the 3.8 engine is still a old school cam in block engine where you can R&R a cyln head in few hours.
When you perform a Leakage test, open radiator cap and see if you got air bubbles coming out of it.
 

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I sure appreciate all the help, The last thing i did before going home friday was take off the rocker shaft and look at them, also took off springs to see if valves were sticking in guides, gaulded or something, everything still looks good.
 
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Have you tried a wet compression and a running compression test?
 
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oops guess we cant help here....
 


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