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Old 01-30-2010, 01:09 AM
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I heard this morning on CBS news that Toyota admits to building poor quality vehicles.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...in;contentBody


And now GM is trying to lure Toyota owners back to QUALITY built American cars (Big 3). Whats Chrysler waiting for this is an opportunity to get sales up again!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...ry&tag=related

The more I think about it, about 4 months ago I almost drove a Camry through the back wall of the shop when I was pulling it in the pedal got stuck. I almost lost my job, the manager didnt believe a brand new car car would have a sticky accelerator. Thank God I hit the brake quick enough.
 

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Dodge announced yesterday morning that they are offering deals to toyota owners...
 
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Three to four auto parts supplier's build parts to individual brand needs, theirs verry little mechanical, or electrical, paint, lighting, engine management systems, between brands, Body styles, warranty's and pricing separate individual brands.

Toyota's built in Canada used gas pedals from a Canadian supplier's, Japanese built toyotas don't have the gas pedal problem.

Gm and Chrysler have built crap for years, Average out the big three recalls and average out Toyotas recalls and Toyota shines.

Ford, Chrysler or Gm would not have had the confidence to shut down assembly line in the event of a problem, Toyota had the ***** to admit a problem and address it.

The big three hide and hide hide and hide thier problems, Toyota's problem is not building quality, but quantity, the very same model as the big three.
 
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No, toyota did not have "the ***** to admit it"...the govt forced them to cease sales and broaden the recall coverage. If you think that toyota admitted anything willingly, you need to go back a few months and read things before the whole story opened up. Toyota has been hiding issues like this for years...look at the years covered in the recall and sales freeze. Early on toyota was trying to make the problem sound like it was due to the pedal getting hung up on the floormats.
 
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im not a toyota fan, and i just recently bought my 09 RAM. Im not really a fan of american cars, i think japan has the best quality! my fav two brands are mitsubishi and subaru, but i love my ram
 
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There are only 2 imports I would ever consider owning that would be Mazda they use Ford engines, and Mitsubishi. Other than that imports are junk they dont last. Just take a ride in the parking lot of a good size shopping mall look at 250 cars I can guarantee you wont find many imports over 12 years old, that seems to be the life span of them, look at any car show where there is an import class, tuners included you dont any old imports. At the shop I work at I see it, 98% of the vehicles that come that are older than a 98 are domestic.
With that in mind Toyota was running ads that really ticked me off, it said 80% of Toyotas built in the last 20 years are still on the road. Its more like 80% made in the last 12 years and 5% for those made between 89 and 98. Last year I had a 92 Camry wagon come in for brakes, we could not get the parts for the E-brake nobody had the cables NOT EVEN THE DEALER, dealer said parts for the old models were DISCONTINUED, if these cars were so great and 80% of them still on the road why would Toyota discontinue making these parts? Its because they know they make junk and it wouldn't be profitable to make parts for cars no longer on the road.
 
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For the sake of toyota, I imagine the main reason a lot of foreign automakers have discontinued parts as described is because a lot of parts manufacturers license with these companies to bring parts to local part stores because most people prefer to fix themselves vs paying outrageous dealer only parts prices. Most of the time what happens is that the company will discontinue the parts due to low production runs and as long as there is a parts supplier they stop producing that part. Japanese automakers like Nissan realized the flaw in running like this so most all parts like 2003 on for Nissan were "dealer only" much like a lot of American companies are doing now. So they might not make the brake line for your hanbrake but remember, a lot of cars can be crossreferenced based off the newer or latter models.

When i had to replace mounts for an 03 q35de for a pathfinder i crossreferenced dealer specific with the 33de model pathfinder which used the same common mount but listed as a different part number which couldnt be traced otherwise. It took a lot of digging but in the long run saved me 233 dollars per mount by doing it this way.


BTW a lotta automakers say the longest dependable this n that, What it comes down to is dollars and sense...the numbers alone may be based off of american or foreign data. Not everything is taken literally. Plus i doubt they can market it after a 2million unit recall.
 

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