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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ragged89
Thanks for that piece of information, I hadn't heard of anyone having so much trouble with the helicoils before.

For an even less labor intensive possibility, here's an older thread that mentions "oversize" guide pins from NAPA as a possible alternative. I would be a little skeptical of this approach, but you can look into it if they're still available:
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...uide-pins.html
I've never used them but he could have been putting them in crooked or wrong in some way.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ragged89
I would bet that the "very little rear" braking you feel is about right, and the real issue is the front, would you agree?

Does the front bleed OK? If so, I'd double-check that the calipers are the correct ones. Where did they come from?
You may be right....sometimes I can lock the rears about the time the pedal is hitting bottom. The fronts bleed fine as far as I can tell. The calipers were from rock auto....don't remember if they were Cardone or raysbestos or other. But they looked like the old ones I took off. I'm guessing I'm getting no caliper action to the front...but I know they're getting fluid as when bleeding they flex everytime the pedal is pumped...just don't seem to be applying any pressure to the rotor.

one other piece of the puzzle I noticed the last go round of bleeding. When bleeding the rears the pedal goes a certain distance and is very firm...then when my partner opens the bleeder the pedal goes clear to the floor. When doing the fronts however when the bleeder is opened the pedal goes a little further but not to the floor like bleeding the rear. Don't know if that's normal and due to the prop valve...but it's behaved the same on two diff prop valves.
 

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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ragged89
Thanks for that piece of information, I hadn't heard of anyone having so much trouble with the helicoils before.

For an even less labor intensive possibility, here's an older thread that mentions "oversize" guide pins from NAPA as a possible alternative. I would be a little skeptical of this approach, but you can look into it if they're still available:
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen...uide-pins.html
These work GREAT! My truck has had one in it for 35k miles and no issues yet.

Just go to any parts store and tell them your dodge caliber bolts are junk. They'll know what to give you. Cheap, quick and easy. Highly recommend this method. Unless the whole is too far gone.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 07:58 AM
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Specifically, the oversized bolts are a Dorman 13894 - usually found as a "HELP!" blister pack under that number.

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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by robertmee
You may be right....sometimes I can lock the rears about the time the pedal is hitting bottom. The fronts bleed fine as far as I can tell. The calipers were from rock auto....don't remember if they were Cardone or raysbestos or other. But they looked like the old ones I took off. I'm guessing I'm getting no caliper action to the front...but I know they're getting fluid as when bleeding they flex everytime the pedal is pumped...just don't seem to be applying any pressure to the rotor.

one other piece of the puzzle I noticed the last go round of bleeding. When bleeding the rears the pedal goes a certain distance and is very firm...then when my partner opens the bleeder the pedal goes clear to the floor. When doing the fronts however when the bleeder is opened the pedal goes a little further but not to the floor like bleeding the rear. Don't know if that's normal and due to the prop valve...but it's behaved the same on two diff prop valves.
I know the proportioning valve is supposed to react to loss of pressure in either the front or rear, so its possible the piston in the prop valve has slid over and blocked off the front side at some point, which might be an explanation for why the pedal only goes so far when bleeding the front. That scenario should cause the brake light to illuminate though. There's a good suggestion in post #7 here, to clear the proportioning valve:
http://ramchargercentral.com/vehicle...etering-valve/

Otherwise, with a strong flow of fluid coming to the front from a new MC, those calipers ought to be clamping down hard.
 
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