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Old May 5, 2020 | 11:39 PM
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Nope, I'm running one port to the left front and the other port to the right front; and the one rear port, well, to the rear.

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Sorry I'm a little confused. Which ports are you running to which caliper? Are you running the front port to one caliper and the bottom port to the other and then using the rear port to power both back brakes?
 
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Old May 5, 2020 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Red88dakota
Sorry I'm a little confused. Which ports are you running to which caliper? Are you running the front port to one caliper and the bottom port to the other and then using the rear port to power both back brakes?
Yes, that's the plan; instead of the junction block that was there originally.

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Old May 6, 2020 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphP
Yes, that's the plan; instead of the junction block that was there originally.

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Are you sure that would work? The bottom port runs to the back brakes so wouldn't it be supplying a different amount of pressure to whichever caliper you hook up to it and making the calipers apply pressure unevenly?
 
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Old May 6, 2020 | 12:17 AM
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Uhhh ...

You don't know how a proportioning valve / safety valve works, do you?

Look at this first: https://techtalk.mpbrakes.com/combin...ination-valves

There is no direct connection between the front and back halves normally. Matter of fact, if there WERE, it'd not do anything!

So, no. Total volume is controlled by the master cylinder; and both halves are the same on it. So I run the part closer to the firewall to the "front" of the proportioning valve (which will point to the back of the truck to make it easier to plumb), the other port on the master cylinder to the "back". The port on the very back runs down and back to the back brakes, where there's a junction block on the axle. The two on the front - one runs to the right caliper, one to the left caliper. It's moved the junction block into the proportioning valve is all.

Currently, you have one run to the junction block on the frame which then runs to the two calipers. Hydraulically, it's the same thing; factory is just one more fitting that can spring a leak.

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Old May 6, 2020 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RalphP
Uhhh ...

You don't know how a proportioning valve / safety valve works, do you?

Look at this first: https://techtalk.mpbrakes.com/combin...ination-valves

There is no direct connection between the front and back halves normally. Matter of fact, if there WERE, it'd not do anything!

So, no. Total volume is controlled by the master cylinder; and both halves are the same on it. So I run the part closer to the firewall to the "front" of the proportioning valve (which will point to the back of the truck to make it easier to plumb), the other port on the master cylinder to the "back". The port on the very back runs down and back to the back brakes, where there's a junction block on the axle. The two on the front - one runs to the right caliper, one to the left caliper. It's moved the junction block into the proportioning valve is all.

Currently, you have one run to the junction block on the frame which then runs to the two calipers. Hydraulically, it's the same thing; factory is just one more fitting that can spring a leak.

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Oooohhh I get it now I misunderstood how the proportioning valve works. So getting rid of the hspv is just as simple as rerouting the front brake lines and getting rid of the front brake line t?
 
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Old May 6, 2020 | 12:41 AM
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Possibly; I'm not positive that's all the front port does on the feedback. Since it's feeding some of the rear brake pressure into the front to adjust the proportioning valve; but others have blocked off that line on the front half and sent it that way. I just don't like that idea myself.

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