1st Gen Durango 1998 - 2003 Durango's

Starting issue has left me clueless...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2013 | 06:14 PM
  #1  
mister_blue01's Avatar
mister_blue01
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default Starting issue has left me clueless...

Hello everyone....this is my first post on this site so please excuse any mistakes I may make in regards to leaving posts. Am a new member but have been an avid reader of the forums for quite some time now, and love it. That being said, I searched for an identical issue as mine and couldn't find one so here I post.
The vehicle in question is a 2000 Durango, 5.9L, with close to 165,000 miles. I was having an overheating issue so I had it towed home before any serious damage was done to it. Once I got it home I attempted to go out and troubleshoot the issue but couldn't get the vehicle to start at all. I got inside the vehicle and all the interior/dash lights came on, but when I turned the key to crank it I heard a click and all the lights shut off. No engine crank, no nothing. It's like there isn't even a battery connected to the vehicle. (A few times since I have went out and the interior/dash lights will be back on, but once I try to start it all just shuts down)
My first thought is/was the "brain". Twice prior to this episode I had went to start it and it wouldn't start but there was at least dash lights on even though it wouldn't turn over at all. Those times I disconnected the battery and reset the "brain" (I assumed) because I could get in and it would crank right up.
The difference this time is that I can try to reset it and sometimes I am able to get the lights to come on inside, sometimes not. Sometimes it seems that if it sits a day or two then the lights will work again, but no matter what it always shuts down once I attempt to turn the key to the cranking position. Always just a click and then silence (except the last time I attempted I could hear the ctm clicking in the dash after all shut down). Also, before I would turn the key all the way I would hear the fuel pump kick in.
I have tried jumpstarting, resetting the brain by using the key in the doors (I bought it and it never had the key fobs), cleaned all the battery cable connections and major ground points for the negative battery cable, removed the #13 fuse to see if that would give any insight (none). reseated the plugs into the ctm, had the battery checked at Autozone (it's good). I am at a total loss. Any insight would be much appreciated.
Oh yeah...the day it was overheating the gauges were going all squirrelly. The battery gauging was dropping to 8, the temp was near the red, the oil pressure gauge was showing no pressure. These things combined with what I've read led me to believe it's a brain issue, but I may be incorrect.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 06:48 PM
  #2  
that_guy's Avatar
that_guy
Champion
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 44
From: Pittsburgh, PA or Columbia, SC
Default

Have you tried putting it in neutral to start it?
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 06:52 PM
  #3  
Old_School's Avatar
Old_School
Record Breaker
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 6
From: Pennsylvania
Default

Originally Posted by mister_blue01
Hello everyone....this is my first post on this site so please excuse any mistakes I may make in regards to leaving posts. Am a new member but have been an avid reader of the forums for quite some time now, and love it. That being said, I searched for an identical issue as mine and couldn't find one so here I post.
The vehicle in question is a 2000 Durango, 5.9L, with close to 165,000 miles. I was having an overheating issue so I had it towed home before any serious damage was done to it. Once I got it home I attempted to go out and troubleshoot the issue but couldn't get the vehicle to start at all. I got inside the vehicle and all the interior/dash lights came on, but when I turned the key to crank it I heard a click and all the lights shut off. No engine crank, no nothing. It's like there isn't even a battery connected to the vehicle. (A few times since I have went out and the interior/dash lights will be back on, but once I try to start it all just shuts down)
My first thought is/was the "brain". Twice prior to this episode I had went to start it and it wouldn't start but there was at least dash lights on even though it wouldn't turn over at all. Those times I disconnected the battery and reset the "brain" (I assumed) because I could get in and it would crank right up.
The difference this time is that I can try to reset it and sometimes I am able to get the lights to come on inside, sometimes not. Sometimes it seems that if it sits a day or two then the lights will work again, but no matter what it always shuts down once I attempt to turn the key to the cranking position. Always just a click and then silence (except the last time I attempted I could hear the ctm clicking in the dash after all shut down). Also, before I would turn the key all the way I would hear the fuel pump kick in.
I have tried jumpstarting, resetting the brain by using the key in the doors (I bought it and it never had the key fobs), cleaned all the battery cable connections and major ground points for the negative battery cable, removed the #13 fuse to see if that would give any insight (none). reseated the plugs into the ctm, had the battery checked at Autozone (it's good). I am at a total loss. Any insight would be much appreciated.
Oh yeah...the day it was overheating the gauges were going all squirrelly. The battery gauging was dropping to 8, the temp was near the red, the oil pressure gauge was showing no pressure. These things combined with what I've read led me to believe it's a brain issue, but I may be incorrect.

Sounds like you either have a loose ground wire somewhere or the CTM is starting to fail.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:06 PM
  #4  
mister_blue01's Avatar
mister_blue01
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Tried starting it in neutral, same thing happened. Everything shut off. It's gonna take a little bit for it to "reset" and the power come back on in it. I have been wondering if there was a loose wire issue, especially after having it towed home. I'm dreading having to track that down.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 07:15 PM
  #5  
Old_School's Avatar
Old_School
Record Breaker
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 6
From: Pennsylvania
Default

Originally Posted by mister_blue01
Tried starting it in neutral, same thing happened. Everything shut off. It's gonna take a little bit for it to "reset" and the power come back on in it. I have been wondering if there was a loose wire issue, especially after having it towed home. I'm dreading having to track that down.
I know how you feel, i hate when i have a issue that could have two possible culprits.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 09:04 PM
  #6  
mister_blue01's Avatar
mister_blue01
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Well..it started pouring rain here. I will post the culprit once I figure this thing out. Thanks for the input...
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2013 | 09:23 PM
  #7  
that_guy's Avatar
that_guy
Champion
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 44
From: Pittsburgh, PA or Columbia, SC
Default

When you cleaned the battery connections did you also clean where the cables connect to the PDC? It also might not hurt to try another battery and see if that makes a difference before jumping into replacing computers.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2013 | 10:52 AM
  #8  
mister_blue01's Avatar
mister_blue01
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

I cleaned the connections inside the main fuse box that is next to the battery, not sure if that is where the pcm is located. I will Google the pcm location and try that as well.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:27 PM.