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i was wondering if any one had thsese..i wanted to know if there was any relocation of the cat or any cutting and hacking invovled i live in cali so i cant realy do any of that.

 

The pacesetter isn't a longtube header like the Blackdog or Kirk header so you don't eliminate the cat. It fits in the stock location and bolts up the cat. I'd recommend getting it from Modern Performance, because their customer service is much better and it's the same price!

 

Any tube headers will be an improvement over the stock manifold and long tube is always better than shorties. The Kirk Racing header is perhaps the best. You can always add a high flow catalytic converter after the header regardless which header you choose to use to keep you legal.

 

The problem is extending the O2 wires. It's knd of a PITA, but it can be done.

 

thanks guys for helping me out on this one

 

http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/neonhdr1.shtmlso this header jsut bolts right up i dont have to do any cutting or jerry rigging

 

Bolts up, but you should get it welded on also. Talk to the guys at Modern, they are very helpful.