08 Avenger Stalling???? HELP!!!!
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need help, same thing other people are talking about but have no idea what is going on. we do have and engine light that comes on and off. no codes, first time i thought it was bad gas, put a can of sea foam in and light went away. light comes and goes, seen in dodge charger forum that the fuel was getting into the evap canister and flooding out engine due to a stick valve. but that is what i have heard but the dealership cannot find anything wrong. 2.7 flex fuel with 57000 miles on it.
This is the only TSB I could find that may pertain to the condition you and some others have described.
NUMBER: 18-003-09 REV. C
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: June 11, 2009
SUBJECT:
Flash: Driveability Improvements Or MIL Illumination Diagnostic Trouble Code P0452 -
Evap Pressure Switch Stuck Closed
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM) with new software.
MODELS:
**2008 (CS) Pacifica**
2009 (JC) Journey
2007 - 2009 (JS) Sebring/Avenger/Sebring Convertible
2008 - 2009 (RT) Town & Country/Voyager/Caravan (Includes
International Markets)
NOTE: This bulletin applies to:
- **2008 CS vehicles equipped with a 4.0L Engine (Sales Code EGQ)**.
- 2007, 2008 JS vehicles equipped with a 2.4L Engine and Automatic Transmission
(Sales Code EDG or ED3 with DFF) built before June 19, 2008
NUMBER: 18-003-09 REV. C
GROUP: Vehicle Performance
DATE: June 11, 2009
- 2007, 2008 and 2009 JS vehicles equipped with a 2.7L and 3.5L engine (sales code
EER or EGF) built Before October 15, 2008 (MDH 1015XX)
- 2008 RT vehicles equipped with a 3.3L or 3.8L or 4.0L engine (sales code EGV,
EGL or EGQ)
- 2009 RT vehicles equipped with a 3.3L or 3.8L or 4.0L engine (sales code EGV,
EGL or EGQ built before May 11, 2009 (MDH 0511XX).
- 2009 JC vehicles equipped with a 2.4L engine (sales code ED3 or EDG) built before
August 20, 2008 (MDH 0820XX)
- 2009 JC vehicles equipped with a 3.5L engine (sales code EGF) built before
September 6, 2008 (MDH 0906XX)
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Some customers may complain that the engine stumbles, runs rough, has idle fluctuations
and/or surges at idle or there is a MIL illumination. Further investigation by the technician
may find DTC:
- P0452 - Evap Pressure Switch Stuck Closed
DIAGNOSIS:
Using a Scan Tool (wiTECH or StarSCAN®) with the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures
available in TechCONNECT, verify all engine systems are functioning as designed. If
DTC's other then the one listed above are present record them on the repair order and
repair as necessary before proceeding further with this bulletin.
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@offroadjosh
did take it to auto zone, a while ago with the light on no codes were pulled none at all. according to the manual it says no problem until the light flashes. it says it just he fuel cap. taken to dealership on tuesday.
thanks
pokey929
thanks
pokey929
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Pokey,
Yes, please report back as to what the problem that they find and what the fix is going to be. thanks...
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dealership didn't help anything
just got back from the dealership with my 08 avenger. my MIL was calling code P0420 catalyst efficency bank 1 stored. they had a hard time believing that was the problem since it was running fine when i brought it in. they did put it up on the hoist and did a visual inspection on the exhaust and the wiring they didn't find anything wrong. the only thing i got from them was bring it in when its running rought. i said my car probably wouldn't make it. they said they would need more time with my car but for 32.80 cents for 45 minutes and nothing done. i wish i could get a better answer for my car. i bought it brand new at the same dealership and i have had all my maint. done by that dealership. they did call star online, some help thing. and the tech said engine harness replacemnet corrected the condition causing cel. wow.
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Stalling, hesitating.
My 2.7 has been stalling at stops. The garage that had been taking care of our oil changes for warranty said it was the air filter and changed it... no more stalling!
Next time it was stalling at stop signs, I changed the filter again and voila!
Now the ongoing issue I have is with the 1-2 shift. It feels like the torque managment control is (sometimes) going overboard and the engine almost stalls and then gives a hard shift. It does it with hard acceleration or light, it doesn't seem to matter.
Sometimes it happens while passing a car. I talked to the dealer about this while it was still on warranty, but there were other issues and I never got an answer on this one. I'm thinking if I put a performance chip in it, maybe that will improve the shifting.
Next time it was stalling at stop signs, I changed the filter again and voila!
Now the ongoing issue I have is with the 1-2 shift. It feels like the torque managment control is (sometimes) going overboard and the engine almost stalls and then gives a hard shift. It does it with hard acceleration or light, it doesn't seem to matter.
Sometimes it happens while passing a car. I talked to the dealer about this while it was still on warranty, but there were other issues and I never got an answer on this one. I'm thinking if I put a performance chip in it, maybe that will improve the shifting.
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Fuel pump maybe. It burnt up the wire harness too. It stalled and stalled. The dealer couldn't figure it out. The third time finally when it totally wouldn't start they found out. Even when they did the codes all they got was a code for the tpmn. I'm telling beware of that computer. I believe even the new one I got is screwing things up STILL. It had cause my alternator to smoke and not shut off. Nice.