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Lol yea that's how I was raised saying it anything above DC I always say upstate lol. The 23 was all flat land before I went thru the mountains now its prolly 20-21 barely any cops but a lot of construction on pa turnpike made it in about 9hrs tho
Yeah, usually my highway trips are through Vermont and there are some steep grades on those highways. Steep enough that I need to shift from 5th to 4th and I get around 18-19.
Cops crawl all over I95 and 495 i live outside NYC their are alot of cops and they are ********* in NY believe me becareful on the big highways. O and dont use the phone at all.
I think it's funny how Syracuse, or anything about NYC for that matter, is considered 'up state NY'. I don't consider it upstate until you get into the adk.
Yeah, I grew up in the Hudson Valley, only about an hour north of NYC and it was always considered "upstate NY". I always considered upstate anything north of Albany...