mudd terrain or all terrain
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From: long island, NY
i guess the question is how deep is the mud you go thru? how bout the beach?
most mud tires look cool but are kinda of overkill imo and wear much faster on the road. a/t tires will get you thru mud still and perform well on the road. my a/t tires are loud as hell on the road, so the muds would have been worse.
most mud tires look cool but are kinda of overkill imo and wear much faster on the road. a/t tires will get you thru mud still and perform well on the road. my a/t tires are loud as hell on the road, so the muds would have been worse.
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From: Plattsburgh, NY
i guess the question is how deep is the mud you go thru? how bout the beach?
most mud tires look cool but are kinda of overkill imo and wear much faster on the road. a/t tires will get you thru mud still and perform well on the road. my a/t tires are loud as hell on the road, so the muds would have been worse.
most mud tires look cool but are kinda of overkill imo and wear much faster on the road. a/t tires will get you thru mud still and perform well on the road. my a/t tires are loud as hell on the road, so the muds would have been worse.
I love my Nitto Terra Grappler A/t's. If you want some pics let me know but they look really good, aren't loud on the road, and are really good in mud/snow for an a/t.
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Did you really not listen to any of us that posted in your previous thread?
I have personal experience with treadwright/tirewright (the exact same company) tires...They are horrible. What you order is a 5 year old casing with a very soft tread pattern which has been made and is then glued to that casing. Ordering 4 tires from them is going to save you money yes, but then you have to factor in the $100 for shipping and at that point you are spending the same amount you would on a set of new tires from discount tire, or any other tire place.
I spent $530 for 4 285/75/16 (33" tires) tires from treadwright, waited about a week and a half for them to come in. During shipping one of them got separated from the other 3 and took another day to arrive. Overall that aggravated me because I was eager to get the 33"s on the truck. Well another $75 for mount and balance brings my treadwright experience up to $605 so far. After having them mounted and balanced the problem which I explained in your previous thread came out not 5 minutes after being let down from the lift (for those of you who didn't read the previous thread, the cap was coming completely off of the tires once the vehicle weight was set onto the pressurized tires). Another $28 ($7 per tire to dismount at kauffmann tire) so that I could ship them back to treadwright for a full refund now brings my complete total spent on treadwright to $633.
Not to mention all of the wasted time (about 3 weeks - a month) it took me to get my tire situation settled with treadwright and then finally getting my new tires put on my cragars.
It's your decision completely as to whether or not you buy those ****ty tires but for $633 spent on treadwright tires, I could have just as easily gone to kauffmann and gotten a set mounted and balanced with a 40K mile+ warranty where as you get no warranty with the 5 year old tires that treadwright sends you.
Just for the record after I got my full refund, I went out locally and got a set of 32" toyo open country all terrains (brand new) with a 40K mile warranty for $526 mounted and balanced. Although I did not get refunded for the first mount and balance ($75) and the dismount ($28). Overall it was a pain in the *** and not worth your time even considering running those tires.
It's not safe to have a blow out and if that happens you'll be spending a lot more than you would on a set of tires just fixing your car or even hospital bills if something real bad happens. You ever drive on the highway and see all those tire pieces on the side? Well those are caps to semi truck tires...you know how semi truck tires are made? The exact same way as treadwright tires, a cap glued onto an old casing. The only reason semi's run them is because they have 2 tires per axle. They can survive a blow out without flipping or causing any serious damage to themselves or their rig. You blow out one of your tires and risk serious damage and risk putting anyone in the car with you into some serious danger.
I hope you make the right decision as far as tires go.
heres a tire blow out gone bad for your reassurance. The driver hit something in the middle of the road causing his tire to blow out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uY-14CPfOE[/video]
I have personal experience with treadwright/tirewright (the exact same company) tires...They are horrible. What you order is a 5 year old casing with a very soft tread pattern which has been made and is then glued to that casing. Ordering 4 tires from them is going to save you money yes, but then you have to factor in the $100 for shipping and at that point you are spending the same amount you would on a set of new tires from discount tire, or any other tire place.
I spent $530 for 4 285/75/16 (33" tires) tires from treadwright, waited about a week and a half for them to come in. During shipping one of them got separated from the other 3 and took another day to arrive. Overall that aggravated me because I was eager to get the 33"s on the truck. Well another $75 for mount and balance brings my treadwright experience up to $605 so far. After having them mounted and balanced the problem which I explained in your previous thread came out not 5 minutes after being let down from the lift (for those of you who didn't read the previous thread, the cap was coming completely off of the tires once the vehicle weight was set onto the pressurized tires). Another $28 ($7 per tire to dismount at kauffmann tire) so that I could ship them back to treadwright for a full refund now brings my complete total spent on treadwright to $633.
Not to mention all of the wasted time (about 3 weeks - a month) it took me to get my tire situation settled with treadwright and then finally getting my new tires put on my cragars.
It's your decision completely as to whether or not you buy those ****ty tires but for $633 spent on treadwright tires, I could have just as easily gone to kauffmann and gotten a set mounted and balanced with a 40K mile+ warranty where as you get no warranty with the 5 year old tires that treadwright sends you.
Just for the record after I got my full refund, I went out locally and got a set of 32" toyo open country all terrains (brand new) with a 40K mile warranty for $526 mounted and balanced. Although I did not get refunded for the first mount and balance ($75) and the dismount ($28). Overall it was a pain in the *** and not worth your time even considering running those tires.
It's not safe to have a blow out and if that happens you'll be spending a lot more than you would on a set of tires just fixing your car or even hospital bills if something real bad happens. You ever drive on the highway and see all those tire pieces on the side? Well those are caps to semi truck tires...you know how semi truck tires are made? The exact same way as treadwright tires, a cap glued onto an old casing. The only reason semi's run them is because they have 2 tires per axle. They can survive a blow out without flipping or causing any serious damage to themselves or their rig. You blow out one of your tires and risk serious damage and risk putting anyone in the car with you into some serious danger.
I hope you make the right decision as far as tires go.
heres a tire blow out gone bad for your reassurance. The driver hit something in the middle of the road causing his tire to blow out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uY-14CPfOE[/video]
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i did more research on this site in the search panel i believe it was for dodge ram but one person tested them out and loved them then everyone started to get them and had no problems with them. i do get were you are coming from that they a retreaded tires but back then they use to make them completely different. and if you recall the firestone problems of tread coming off back in 1990 through 2000 i believe. those were completely new tires. I will take my chances.
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Your choice. I know re-treads are illegial on the front in some places (they're completely illegial on steer axles of all commercial vehicles and any location on a bus), I believe michigan has a law against civilian re-treads. Not sure about any other states ATM.
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i did more research on this site in the search panel i believe it was for dodge ram but one person tested them out and loved them then everyone started to get them and had no problems with them. i do get were you are coming from that they a retreaded tires but back then they use to make them completely different. and if you recall the firestone problems of tread coming off back in 1990 through 2000 i believe. those were completely new tires. I will take my chances.
Trust me I understand your mindset...I thought it was too good to be true 33" A/T's for 100 bucks a tire, I was told a million and one times to not buy them, I read online that they were awesome, I spent the money and said **** it to everyone who told me not to.
In about a year if those tires even last that long you'll have to spend another 100 bucks a tire to get new ones while I will still be on my brand new toyos that I paid less for.
Before you go ahead and give your business to them, at least do me a favor and shop around locally for tires. Take the price of the tire you want, multiply that by 4, then multiply that number by roughly 1.06 (sales tax) and then add 100 for shipping. Then I want you to go out to kauffmann and discount and ask them for quotes on whatever size tire you want. They will be more than happy to tell you the price for all 4 installed as well as show you pictures of them. Usually if you buy a set of tires the mount and balance is either included in tire cost or heavily discounted.
Then also take into account that when you buy retreads, you have no warranty (not even a limited one) and if something goes wrong you have to buy a brand new one considering most tire shops won't touch a retread and if that cap starts to come off theres no repairing it. When you buy from a local shop if something goes wrong within your 40k+mile warranty they either fix it or replace it for free. You can't put a price on customer service. Again, your choice, completely up to you whether or not you buy retreads but at least shop around, don't set your heart on ****ty tires from the get go.
I hope you make the right decision as far as getting new tires and not retreads.
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Ok man will do i will look at tire shops first. i want new tires badly but they were always in the 7 or 8 hundred dollar range. And thats a lot of money for me since i am only in high school. that is why i was thinking retreads but if i can find 4 265/75/16 tires for under 7 hundred i would get them in a heartbeat.
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Hinkster15, I went to www.discounttiredirect.com and punched in your tire size of 265x75x16. Then found the Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 A/T's for $131 a piece. Then I punched in a zip code of 33101 for Miami. I removed the "replacement certificates" and "valve stems". The shipping is free so the total price for the 4 tires is $524 shipped to a southwest Florida zip code.
Now, figure in approximately $25 per tire for new tires valves (if you need them), mount and balance for a total of $100 (unless you can find a place that will do it cheaper). You are at $624 total for new A/T tires on the truck.
Now, figure in approximately $25 per tire for new tires valves (if you need them), mount and balance for a total of $100 (unless you can find a place that will do it cheaper). You are at $624 total for new A/T tires on the truck.