This seller on eBay has these shorty headers for $75 shipped, after messaging he agreed to $65 shipped has ten pairs. Here's a link to see headers on a site, will add eBay link for those interested. http://speed-daddy.com/index.php/exhaust-system-1/headers/header-stainless-steel-96-04-dodge-ram-v8.html Feedback if there worth it would be appreciated.