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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Are you sure??? I thought our trucks did pretty bad in the side collisions.

That's what I always thought at least... .
I seem to remember that the 2nd Gen Ram did poorly as well
 
Old Oct 9, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stewie01
I seem to remember that the 2nd Gen Ram did poorly as well
Not kind to the crash test dummies knees from what I remember.
Side impact protection wasn't great either.

But I remember seeing a rail video of a RAM being hit by a train... I remember thinking that it remained in pretty good shape considering... but had there been occupants, they likely would not have survived the G's of impact.
 
Old Oct 9, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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They did poorly in the tests like spillage said, but TBH there are accidents those tests don't cover. Like hitting a big deer at 55MPH in the door. Everyone who saw that (including a couple of body shops) said it would have ripped the door off in any other truck of the same year... I trust the simple sturdiness of the RAM to protect me.

Also, some simple rules help too but many accidents are just that, accidents. Totally unavoidable.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by stewie01
I seem to remember that the 2nd Gen Ram did poorly as well
I bought my Second Gen (1997) based of reviews that it had more stars than either Ford or Chevy.

Originally Posted by Spillage
Not kind to the crash test dummies knees from what I remember.
Side impact protection wasn't great either.

But I remember seeing a rail video of a RAM being hit by a train... I remember thinking that it remained in pretty good shape considering... but had there been occupants, they likely would not have survived the G's of impact.
Anything hit by a train isn't going to fare well depending on the speed of the train.


Either way, the [all inclusive] statement that "today's vehicles are better" is false.

5 Auto Brands That Fared the Worst in the IIHS Crash Safety Tests -- No. 2 Is a Real Shock!



The Best And Worst Vehicles For Passenger Safety
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2014 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary-L
I bought my Second Gen (1997) based of reviews that it had more stars than either Ford or Chevy.



Anything hit by a train isn't going to fare well depending on the speed of the train.


Either way, the [all inclusive] statement that "today's vehicles are better" is false.

5 Auto Brands That Fared the Worst in the IIHS Crash Safety Tests -- No. 2 Is a Real Shock!



The Best And Worst Vehicles For Passenger Safety

I'm not saying ALL new vehicles are better. but if you take the overall state of crash safety in New vehicles it is way better than older vehicles.

You cant directly compare new standards to the old standards either.

I tried to find a full safety report but the only test I could find is the one in the vid stewie just showed.

Newer rams are rated much better and they have to do a rollover test. still haven't found a side test.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stewie01

I did some research at the IIHS and couldn't find anything earlier than 1998. As I said, when I was researching trucks, the Dodge outperformed Ford and Chevy.

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I'm not saying ALL new vehicles are better. but if you take the overall state of crash safety in New vehicles it is way better than older vehicles.
Again, saying the overall state of crash safety of new vehicles is "way better" than older is subjective unless parameters are established, e.g. trucks vs truck within a 5-year span, passenger vehicle by size and class within a defined time period, etc.

Honestly, this is my favorite vehicle to show people who claim cars "used to be made of *real metal*".



If I'm in a wreck, I want that car to deform and crumple and disintegrate in every way possible so I [and my passengers] can walk away. I won't lose sleep over it not able to be repaired.
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aofarrell2
Datacenter would - but I'm not running a local datacenter, yet.

And we don't have DOCSIS so screw that...
sorry but you're not going to run a datacenter on DSL
 
Old Oct 10, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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2 days till Walking Dead!
 
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Originally Posted by Jigabop
sorry but you're not going to run a datacenter on DSL
I already knew that... Need at least a dedicated gigabit ethernet...
 



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