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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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Well I just got a set of the ceramic coated pasesetter shorty headers in the mail this afternoon. Already have a set of stage 8 locking header bolts sitting next to them. Caught a deal I couldn't turn down (what always gets me in trouble). Anyway I've looked through many of the header threads around here and am trying to be the best prepared I can for the install towards the end of next month. I also plan on buying the remflex gaskets as suggested by many others on the site, including bluebeast2. As far as preparing for the installation im setting a week dedicated for soaking them with anything I can get my hands on basically. PB Blaster, Kroil, etc. Is there anyone who installed headers around 100,000 miles that did not break bolts? Just curious as to how you prepared for your installation, and if anyone has some pointers from those who have been in my shoes before.

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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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well i didnt do headers, but i did take the bottom header bolts off, and they were fine, didnt break one, and i took both sides off, unless you are talking about the bolts that go in the block,, as for that, i have no idea
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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well i didnt do headers, but i did take the bottom header bolts off, and they were fine, didnt break one, and i took both sides off, unless you are talking about the bolts that go in the block,, as for that, i have no idea
Yea im not worried about the down tube bolts because if they snap, they are no big deal. Im concerned with the bolts that go into the cylinder head. Thanks for the response though.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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yea i would soak the for a few days, doesnt have to be a week. but i did that at 118K and they didnt even creak, but just keep a drill and some easy outs on hand. you should be fine.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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Forgot to mention this in my first post, but what is the suggested cycle of tightening the locking header bolts. Im figuring I would put the bolts in torqued to spec as per instructions from pasesetter, and keep the locks off. Get her up to operating temp from idleing, then let her cool down. Check torque specs for the 2nd time. Then take her for a short drive a while and come back to let her cool down. Double check the torque once again and then throw the locks on?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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I put long tube headers on mine at about 175,xxx and had no problems. soaked the bolts for a few minutes and they came right out.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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pb blaster, and a breaker bar. Dont jerk on the bolts with the breaker bar, just ease them off and they will come loose.

just put pacesetter longs on and had no problems.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Im glad there are two success stories at least. Motorbrreath, didn't you do a motor swap a year before you put your headers on? Just curious. A buddy of mine put a set on last year and broke one or two. My roommate put some on his monte carlo and broke a few. I'll take her easy I guess. Thanks for the tip Motorbrreath
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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PB blaster the night before should be more than enough. Just be sure to get the bolts thoroughly soaked and make sure you spray behind the manifold to get the bolts where they enter the heads.

I had to remove the studs with vise grips so I made sure I soaked the stud on the head when i swapped it out.

As far as torquing goes: I couldn't torque them as I couldn't get a torque wrench onto the bolts. I just went as tight as I could get with the open ended wrench then drove it to get them nice and hot, let it cool and retightened. Then I checked it at the end of the first week, they were all tight. Just checked them again this weekend (4 weeks later), still tight. That's basically what Gibson recommended to do.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Told you all I know. But I'll post for the post count. I have a tight space right angle drill if you need it
 
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