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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by lv360ram
whoa, isn't bigger better?
If you get too much air in, you will lose low end without the appropriate engine updates/modifications to handle the extra air.

On the other end of the engine, if you get to big of exhaust pipes, the air will start to cool too quickly before it exits the end of the pipe. Then you have an engine trying to push cold (colder = increased density = heavier) air out of the pipe rather than hot, less dense air. Thats why the largest you should go with a 5.2L or 5.9L V8 is a single 3"/3.5" or dual 2.25"/2.5". Any more than that without other upgrades/modifications to help, and you're actually to big and will lose power rather than gain it.

Many call this "lack of backpressure", which is the incorrect term for it, but most people know what you're talking about when you say that. The correct term would be more along the lines of "to much air density".
 

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonw
If you get too much air in, you will lose low end without the appropriate engine updates/modifications to handle the extra air.

On the other end of the engine, if you get to big of exhaust pipes, the air will start to cool too quickly before it exits the end of the pipe. Then you have an engine trying to push cold (colder = increased density = heavier) air out of the pipe rather than hot, less dense air. Thats why the largest you should go with a 5.2L or 5.9L V8 is a single 3"/3.5" or dual 2.25"/2.5". Any more than that without other upgrades/modifications to help, and you're actually to big and will lose power rather than gain it.

Many call this "lack of backpressure", which is the incorrect term for it, but most people know what you're talking about when you say that. The correct term would be more along the lines of "to much air density".
So Jase the 52mm TB would basically be over kill for my truck,right? I have a 5.9L with a single 3" exhaust ( it spilts into 2 tailpipes after the muffler) but basically it's a single 3" exhaust. I also have the Pace Setter shorty headers and the K&N 14X3 round air filter. Other than that there's no mods. I am looking into the 1.7's rockers but for right now that's it.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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The 52mm is the correct size for a 360.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TMS Bill
The 52mm is the correct size for a 360.
just asking because from what i'm getting it is but only if you have certain mods done to the 5.9.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonw
If you get too much air in, you will lose low end without the appropriate engine updates/modifications to handle the extra air.

On the other end of the engine, if you get to big of exhaust pipes, the air will start to cool too quickly before it exits the end of the pipe. Then you have an engine trying to push cold (colder = increased density = heavier) air out of the pipe rather than hot, less dense air. Thats why the largest you should go with a 5.2L or 5.9L V8 is a single 3"/3.5" or dual 2.25"/2.5". Any more than that without other upgrades/modifications to help, and you're actually to big and will lose power rather than gain it.

Many call this "lack of backpressure", which is the incorrect term for it, but most people know what you're talking about when you say that. The correct term would be more along the lines of "to much air density".
Thanks for the explanation,
rather than just saying it's better or not.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lv360ram
Thanks for the explanation,
rather than just saying it's better or not.
No problem. Unlike some people that love to post one sentence responses to questions and don't explain anything, I usually love to go into detail and share my knowledge on the subject, if I have any. 95% of it was passed onto me from others here, so just trying to do my part to continue that.

mcss8541, TMS Bill is correct, 52mm is the correct size for the 5.9L V8. I have that engine and the Fastman 52mm, which is basically equivalent to the one thats up for auction here.

http://www.thefastman.com/Throttlebodies5x.asp
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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The biggest concern on that posted is "no warranty" and from a wrecked vehicle...don't forget about shipping!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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About $10 shipping. It's an air valve ... what could go wrong? If all the sensors are garbage, there's always the one's off your original.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by J415
Anyone wanna take a guess? I think it'll go for $70.
Originally Posted by magnethead
I say $70 if a V8 guy buys it, $90 if a V6'er.
Just an update for anyone interested... it went for $101.51.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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so what you're saying is the right size for a 360 is 52mm...now is that stock or is that upgraded? just want to clarify. i havent really been following this thread lol
 
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