Drive train linkage question
I would check to see if you have damaged motor mounts too. For that to be shifted that far to the side I would have to bet that you have atleast one damaged motor mount. That tranny mount should hold the trans in place without issue once everything is fixed.
Spot on, speeddemon. Drivers side mount is floating completely free.
This pic tells the sad tale, I am hoping I can fix it in place. The mount does not appear to be warped or otherwise distressed, I'm hoping for the best.
One big complication is one of the bolts broke off in the block. The other 2 appear to have just threaded themselves right out, thereby causing more stress than 1 bolt can take, and it failed - Which, in turn, caused undo stress on the tranny mount, and it likewise failed.
The wonder is is that the drive train didn't spin itself apart under these conditions, I have been literally driving it like this for months.
Or the other mount could have failed, and things would have got real dicey with a completely untethered motor.
The other mount looks good on initial exam, all the bolts are in at least.
But I'm going to check it some more, it must have also had undue stress put on it due the the block shift caused by the failed drivers side mount.
I changed my drivers side exhaust manifold gasket late last fall, and for the life of me I could not get the last 2 bolts back in, I tried for hours jacking this up, prying that, they just would not go.
Now I know why.
My plan is to drill out/extract the sheered bolt and retap if necessary, then jig things around to get the holes to line up with the mount plate, and bolt them right in.
Sounds so easy ! In practice, I think I'm screwed, I may just have to patch it up best I can and limp or get towed to a shop.
Shifting an engine, even 1 inch, without the proper equipment just may not be possible - But that ain't gonna stop me from trying, wish me luck, I'll need it.
This is a good case for everyone to check the torque on their mounting bolts every now and then, this could have easily been prevented, obviously.

Here, I have the trans shifted over a bit closer to where its supposed to be.
Already got the new mount, not going to worry much about this until I get the motor mount problem taken care of, then this can be bolted up in minutes.
This pic tells the sad tale, I am hoping I can fix it in place. The mount does not appear to be warped or otherwise distressed, I'm hoping for the best.
One big complication is one of the bolts broke off in the block. The other 2 appear to have just threaded themselves right out, thereby causing more stress than 1 bolt can take, and it failed - Which, in turn, caused undo stress on the tranny mount, and it likewise failed.
The wonder is is that the drive train didn't spin itself apart under these conditions, I have been literally driving it like this for months.
Or the other mount could have failed, and things would have got real dicey with a completely untethered motor.
The other mount looks good on initial exam, all the bolts are in at least.
But I'm going to check it some more, it must have also had undue stress put on it due the the block shift caused by the failed drivers side mount.
I changed my drivers side exhaust manifold gasket late last fall, and for the life of me I could not get the last 2 bolts back in, I tried for hours jacking this up, prying that, they just would not go.
Now I know why.
My plan is to drill out/extract the sheered bolt and retap if necessary, then jig things around to get the holes to line up with the mount plate, and bolt them right in.
Sounds so easy ! In practice, I think I'm screwed, I may just have to patch it up best I can and limp or get towed to a shop.
Shifting an engine, even 1 inch, without the proper equipment just may not be possible - But that ain't gonna stop me from trying, wish me luck, I'll need it.
This is a good case for everyone to check the torque on their mounting bolts every now and then, this could have easily been prevented, obviously.

Here, I have the trans shifted over a bit closer to where its supposed to be.
Already got the new mount, not going to worry much about this until I get the motor mount problem taken care of, then this can be bolted up in minutes.
Last edited by xray99; May 24, 2009 at 05:20 PM.
WOW!!! I didn't expect to see that. That sucks. Hope you have a right angle drill to try and drill that out. The other three bolts must have been missing for that to happen as opposed to the rubber shearing off. I don't know what state you are in but if you are close enough and need help let me know. I would jack up the motor and put a block of wood between the engine and crank area of the motor then take out the motor mount and frame mount too. That should give you some room to work in.
The pic is deceptive, as they often are.
I actually have a straight shot at the sheered bolt [mount isn't in the way], but the trans lines are in the way.
I unhooked them from their brackets up front to get a little more slack to get them out of the way, but they are right square in the way, so I'll have to detach them from the trans, that should allow them to be tied off out of the way.
By necessity, I have to start with a very small drill bit, if I could use a longer one the lines wouldn't be that much of a factor, but I don't want to botch the extraction by doing things half assed. I did manage to make a nice center pilot dimple in the middle of the failed bolt, but the trans lines are keeping me from going straight and hard at it, so they'll have to go, one way or the other.
I did try jacking the motor up a bit, at a point right behind the oil pan, had to do that to remove what looks to be a heat shield that was pinched in there [visible still hanging just to the right of the mount] but by and large, it just seemed to jack up the whole truck, so I didn't go too far with that, but I did get that shield out.
I only saw 3 holes, if theres a 4th must not have had the right angle to see it, sure hope there not another sheered bolt waiting for me.
If that was the case, then I'd for sure have to remove the mount, something I am hoping to avoid.
Thanks for the offer of help, I'd take you up on that but I'm a couple states away in MI.
I'm optimistic, going to go at it slow and methodical - And luckily, I'm laid off my job for a couple of weeks, so I got free time and no pressing need for my truck.
Worse case scenario, I can't do it, so I'll tow it to someone who can.
At least the problem is well defined now, I got some bad advice but I blame no one but myself, I was told what I wanted to hear and blocked it out of my mind, even though I knew damn well something wasn't right.
I actually have a straight shot at the sheered bolt [mount isn't in the way], but the trans lines are in the way.
I unhooked them from their brackets up front to get a little more slack to get them out of the way, but they are right square in the way, so I'll have to detach them from the trans, that should allow them to be tied off out of the way.
By necessity, I have to start with a very small drill bit, if I could use a longer one the lines wouldn't be that much of a factor, but I don't want to botch the extraction by doing things half assed. I did manage to make a nice center pilot dimple in the middle of the failed bolt, but the trans lines are keeping me from going straight and hard at it, so they'll have to go, one way or the other.
I did try jacking the motor up a bit, at a point right behind the oil pan, had to do that to remove what looks to be a heat shield that was pinched in there [visible still hanging just to the right of the mount] but by and large, it just seemed to jack up the whole truck, so I didn't go too far with that, but I did get that shield out.
I only saw 3 holes, if theres a 4th must not have had the right angle to see it, sure hope there not another sheered bolt waiting for me.
If that was the case, then I'd for sure have to remove the mount, something I am hoping to avoid.
Thanks for the offer of help, I'd take you up on that but I'm a couple states away in MI.
I'm optimistic, going to go at it slow and methodical - And luckily, I'm laid off my job for a couple of weeks, so I got free time and no pressing need for my truck.
Worse case scenario, I can't do it, so I'll tow it to someone who can.
At least the problem is well defined now, I got some bad advice but I blame no one but myself, I was told what I wanted to hear and blocked it out of my mind, even though I knew damn well something wasn't right.
We all do that from time to time. It's called false hope.lol. Yeah MI is a bit far for me to drive. Well I'm glad that the mount isn't in the way. I am not sure if it is three or four bolts by the way. One bit of advice is to have a couple of vacuum caps handy when you pull the lines off the tranny. You can cap em off to try and prevent major fluid loss. If you have a NAPA near you go and get a 1/4 inch left hand drill bit. It will cut like butter and with any luck it will extract the bolt for you without having to drill it all the way out. Just make sure you are centered cause they cut like crazy and will go right through the bolt with ease.
Am pleased to report that I got it back in place without too much difficulty.
When a friend of mine with a mig welder suggested just leaving the sheared bolt in place and instead get the 2 other bolts in and weld the bottom, I thought that was a great idea.
I was going to get the motor mount done up first then the trans mount, but I figured getting the trans back in place first might make it easier to line up the motor, and it did.
I just jacked the trans up a bit and moved it over with leg power, while my buddy lined it up with the new mount and dropped it right in.
The engine lined up pretty good after that, and it was just a matter of jacking it up a bit and loosening up the long mount bolt to thread the other 2 bolts in, and weld the last bit.
Dumb *** me, always forgetting something though, that shield that went between the block and mount I forgot to put in, I'm pretty sure its just a heat shield cause its right next to the starter, but also probably served to reduce friction between the block and mount, I hope that piece is not essential, because it would take some doing to get it back in now.
Hard to make out anything in this pic, I know, but here the mount and engine are successfully mated back up.

Tranny happily perched on its new mount, drive train now lined up perfect.
Going to have to check the Ujoints, must have stressed the hell out of them

Haven't taken it for a test drive yet, as I have a number of things to button up on the vehicle, and darkness was closing in.
When a friend of mine with a mig welder suggested just leaving the sheared bolt in place and instead get the 2 other bolts in and weld the bottom, I thought that was a great idea.
I was going to get the motor mount done up first then the trans mount, but I figured getting the trans back in place first might make it easier to line up the motor, and it did.
I just jacked the trans up a bit and moved it over with leg power, while my buddy lined it up with the new mount and dropped it right in.
The engine lined up pretty good after that, and it was just a matter of jacking it up a bit and loosening up the long mount bolt to thread the other 2 bolts in, and weld the last bit.
Dumb *** me, always forgetting something though, that shield that went between the block and mount I forgot to put in, I'm pretty sure its just a heat shield cause its right next to the starter, but also probably served to reduce friction between the block and mount, I hope that piece is not essential, because it would take some doing to get it back in now.
Hard to make out anything in this pic, I know, but here the mount and engine are successfully mated back up.

Tranny happily perched on its new mount, drive train now lined up perfect.
Going to have to check the Ujoints, must have stressed the hell out of them

Haven't taken it for a test drive yet, as I have a number of things to button up on the vehicle, and darkness was closing in.
Looks good. Only issue I would have with the welding is if the soft plug starts leaking then you will have to grind off the weld to get the mount out of the way to fix it. Other than that looks successful.
Wasn't too crazy about the weld honestly, but that sheared bolt promised to be quite a bitch.
I am now going to make it a point to crawl under my truck at least once a month to check things out, and fix things before they get blown out of proportion, and also to drop my habit of ignoring obvious warning signs.
Whats a soft plug, by the way ?
I am now going to make it a point to crawl under my truck at least once a month to check things out, and fix things before they get blown out of proportion, and also to drop my habit of ignoring obvious warning signs.
Whats a soft plug, by the way ?
The soft plugs are the round plugs that go in the side of the block and if your coolant passages should freeze they are there to pop out to prevent the block from cracking. You can see one to the right of the motor mount in your most recent pics.



