Super Charger for 1995 Dodge Ram
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Auggie, that was meant for the OP of that thread not you. We were actually on the same page about that topic. The only kit I have seen is a Procharger kit, which is what Indy_RM runs IIRC. My contention is this, lots of companies and people will tell you that you can put a supercharger or a turbo, or nitrous on any engine with little or no modifications or build up. But think for a second here, most of us are dealing with engines in the 75k-100k plus mile range, with a notorious history or plenum leaks and bad heads. Do you really want to drop 500-1000 or more dollars on a power adder, just to have your tired engine come apart because it "bolted right on"? Me personally, if it was my money i'd be dammed sure that the engine was right, and had the proper parts in it before the huffer went on top. Its kind of no brainer, but I am old school in alot of ways. I still perscribe to "Built Once, Built Right".
lol Reminds me I watched that old chuck Norris movie last night after mentioning it on the other thread.....they played up that supercharger up on his ramcharger so much you'd thought it was a supertruck....Good stuff...forgot how cheesy the acting was...sorry....back on topic...
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Auggie, that was meant for the OP of that thread not you. We were actually on the same page about that topic. The only kit I have seen is a Procharger kit, which is what Indy_RM runs IIRC. My contention is this, lots of companies and people will tell you that you can put a supercharger or a turbo, or nitrous on any engine with little or no modifications or build up. But think for a second here, most of us are dealing with engines in the 75k-100k plus mile range, with a notorious history or plenum leaks and bad heads. Do you really want to drop 500-1000 or more dollars on a power adder, just to have your tired engine come apart because it "bolted right on"? Me personally, if it was my money i'd be dammed sure that the engine was right, and had the proper parts in it before the huffer went on top. Its kind of no brainer, but I am old school in alot of ways. I still perscribe to "Built Once, Built Right".
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As you can see I have a ProCharged 5.2 with 101k installed at 80k. To date have had no issues. There are a couple of things you need to do with the install. I highly suggest adding a 2bar map sensor, upgraded head gaskets, and a boost gauge. The two bar map sensor allows your computer to recognize the boost. If not you will have a dead spot from zero to two lbs. The reason is that a 1bar's limit is ZERO and it confuses the computer. The new map will read for up to 15lbs. Replacing the head gaskets will not only keep you from blowing out your crappy stock one but will allow you to check the plenum and inspect your heads. Stock heads are notorious for a number 7 cyl crack. If you end up with belt slippage issues you can purchase an upgraded pulley bracket from the guys at KRC Performance.
One thing you will not have to worry much about is the lower end. Dodge made them strong. I have not had any valve floating using stock rockers and springs. I also have not had any transmission problems. I thought at one time I had and the transmission checked out with no problems. The guy was straight with me and said that alot of times the transmissions in our trucks get labeled as bad when in fact they are not. He claims to have seen a ton of our trucks in the shop for suspected transmission problems and sent them home. I believe him due to the fact that I have had three of these trucks and not one transmission problem.
One thing you will not have to worry much about is the lower end. Dodge made them strong. I have not had any valve floating using stock rockers and springs. I also have not had any transmission problems. I thought at one time I had and the transmission checked out with no problems. The guy was straight with me and said that alot of times the transmissions in our trucks get labeled as bad when in fact they are not. He claims to have seen a ton of our trucks in the shop for suspected transmission problems and sent them home. I believe him due to the fact that I have had three of these trucks and not one transmission problem.
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I already stated that the only company that currently says they make superchargers for 5.9L Magnum V8s or 5.2L Magnum V8s is ProCharger. The rest may have at one time, but don't anymore. See the very first reply to the OP's question.
No need to post redundant info dude.
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What proper parts are you talking about? A low boost supercharger on the mile range engine your talking about would be fine as long as your engine was in good shape. Dont get me wrong, if you WANT to beef up the internals, get better heads, etc, etc, then I say go for it. But you don't NEED to. Turbos I have no idea about so I'm not even going to speculate. A 50 shot of nitrous should be ok but anything more I don't know.
Skyline,key phrase being " in good shape". Since few of us have acutally bought these truck new, you never quite know what your dealing with. How was it treated and maintained? Look before you leap is all I am saying.
What proper parts are you talking about? A low boost supercharger on the mile range engine your talking about would be fine as long as your engine was in good shape. Dont get me wrong, if you WANT to beef up the internals, get better heads, etc, etc, then I say go for it. But you don't NEED to. Turbos I have no idea about so I'm not even going to speculate. A 50 shot of nitrous should be ok but anything more I don't know.
Do you even read the whole thread before you post a reply?
I already stated that the only company that currently says they make superchargers for 5.9L Magnum V8s or 5.2L Magnum V8s is ProCharger. The rest may have at one time, but don't anymore. See the very first reply to the OP's question.
No need to post redundant info dude.
I already stated that the only company that currently says they make superchargers for 5.9L Magnum V8s or 5.2L Magnum V8s is ProCharger. The rest may have at one time, but don't anymore. See the very first reply to the OP's question.
No need to post redundant info dude.
I thought that Powerdyne, Paxton, and Vortech still made superchargers for our trucks. A quick Google search proved that wrong. I havent looked at superchargers in a while!
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one: internal temps can get very high (upwards of 1300 degrees at the exhaust manifold, higher in the cylinders) and thats on a stock motor, do what i want to do to my next truck and ill be able to hit nearly 16-1700
light, cheap parts would not stand up to this kind of heat for long periods of time, as most diesels are subjected to, being used as a tow vehicle
two: compression ratio, diesels typically run anywhere from 16:1 all the way up to 25:1 compression, even more under high boost (30 + lbs, ive seen some diesels push over 100 lbs of boost)
you need heavy parts to survive, without shattering
reason for the high compression ratio, diesels don't use spark plugs, sheer compression (compression + high heat = combustion)
three: use, diesels are designed as heavy use (towing, hauling, pulling tillage equipment and what not) and high mile engines (one of our KWs with a C12 Cat diesel is pushing over 500,000 and runs like brand new) ive seen some tractor trailer engines pushing over a million
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbJ1abyTWoQ&NR=1
no audio, but pulling a moldboard plow is hard work, i garontee that 6 cyl diesel is running ***** to the wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns6_8...eature=related
pulling is just plain cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLeMmg2dQc
we have a tractor thats the same model (85C Cat, 355 horsepower, its fun to drive)
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Yeah, but how reliable would that truck be? Would the motor go for another 75-100,000+? I know that the bottom ends of the Magnum engines are great and these motors are very capable of doing 300,000+ and still hold good compression. You barely ever hear of failure of the Magnum bottom ends with thrown rods, etc... But if you were going to put a suercharger on your 100,000 mile truck, (1.)you are having to get better heads, (2.) and a intake manifold and (3.)should put a bigger cam in. So why not just take the motor down and put in new rings and bearings? Just to freshen it up. You have already spent big money on the charger. Why not spend a little more to increase the relibility and life? You'll save a bunch of time in the long run. JMO.
"how do I get more power out of my truck...." Well when you reach the end of bolts ons its
time to put up or shut up. Everytime you 'mod' your going to find the next weakest link and
horsepower costs money.
1. You don't have to get better heads, but they are a weak point from the factory so
chances are it will be your next weakest point. How many guys have replaced heads that
don't even run superchargers.
2. You can use the stock intake manifold with no problems.
3. You don't need to swap the cam at all.
I'm wondering where this mis-information is coming from..... I'm not picking on you at all, its
just that A LOT of people seem to think you have to strip down and build up a motor to run
6 - 8 pounds of boost.