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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Hey guys, im a lowly FNG but i have read and read on your forums. You seem like a knowledgeable friendly bunch so i have decided to join and maybe, in time, i can be knowledgeable too. I have never had any trouble with my 98 ram 1500 5.9 (145K miles) until a couple of months ago. On my way home from work, at 0300, I got a check engine light accompanied by a loss of power and vibration. I pulled over immediately to make sure i had oil (truck has burned 1qt between oil changes since i got it with 22k miles). My oil level was fine, so i pressed on. The next morning i took it to autozone who read my codes, P0308. SOooo I bought new plugs and wires. My #8 plug looked like hell, burned with sintered metal on it. The new plugs and wires smoothed the truck out a little but the vibration wasthere, the lack of power... there, check engine light.... still shining.
Then i found dodgeforum.com. I have since checked my compression, rerouted my spark plug wires, disconnected 1 fuel injector at a time for RPM fluctuations, and am currently cleaning fuel injectors and rail.

My compression readings were: 1) 130, 3) 140, 5) 127, 7) 145, 2)145, 4)147, 6)125, 8) 167. I got these readings with the engine warmed up, 10 revolutions of the engine, plugs out, fuel system still spraying(DUMMY).

I was unable to discern any difference of engine speed as i unhooked 1 fuel injector at a time. I dont know if this is because the stock tachometer is not precise enough to show the variation or if there are other factors. Idle was 625-640 regardless of if they were all hooked up or which one was out at any given time.

There is a bunch of doodoo in my fuel rail which i have sprayed out to the best of my ability (avoid getting B12 on your face, no bueno), i have sprayed out my injectors as well as i can. I will be putting them back in momentarily and testing.

I have read a lot about the likelyhood of the plenum gasket failing, that is my next step.

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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Take a look down your throttle body, if there is oil pooled inside then it's the plenum. Did you change your plug wires and cap and rotor as well?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Welcome to DF.

You may have other issues going on, but your plenum is most likely one of them.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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also, for what it's worth, and i didn't read the whole article btw, but there's a TSB about how to route your spark plug cables. Apparently if you don't route them a certain way and use cut tubing around them, you can get misfires, pinging, or rpm fluctuations. Just google it, the TSB is everywhere.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Its in the FAQ section.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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It looks like pulling the fuel rail off and cleaning all the doodoo out of there (rusty yuk) and out of the injectors fixed my troubles. I have not changed my rotor and cap. I have changed plugs, wires, and done the plug wire reroute. Inside my intake looks pretty clean. So for now i think the truck is working pretty well. It runs smooth and no more check engine light. When I do (apparently it is a when, not if) have to change my plenum gasket, is there a neato intake upgrade or should i stick with the kegger? Thanks fellas.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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Yeah there is a neat intake upgrade and it comes with a shiny price tag of 600 from hughesengines
 
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