New Member, I need a pro's opinion on what to do! (A.S.A.P.)
Record Breaker
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Charleston, SC
Well... 30" tires will definately fit with a 3" lift...
Considering the weight of the boots you are wearing can cause the mileage to fluctuate by 2mpg, any serious build will have more of an impact then that.
Any "chip" is garbage. If you already bought one, place it in your toilet, and pull the lever for maximum results.
FYI: I am pretty sure you have the only truck ever to have a 727 installed as factory equipment. You might want to consider leaving it stock, because it's probably worth a fortune, considering it's a one-off!!!
Considering the weight of the boots you are wearing can cause the mileage to fluctuate by 2mpg, any serious build will have more of an impact then that.
Any "chip" is garbage. If you already bought one, place it in your toilet, and pull the lever for maximum results.
FYI: I am pretty sure you have the only truck ever to have a 727 installed as factory equipment. You might want to consider leaving it stock, because it's probably worth a fortune, considering it's a one-off!!!
be nice this guys a newb and doesnt know better
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From: Deal Island Maryland
do exhaust first starting with headers, and ****ty stock y-pipe(gotta breathe out before you breathe in), CAI's are a waste on our trucks, for a programmer get a superchip or a SCT tuner from hemifever, for the trans get a viper trans from PATC, the stock trans is a 46RE not a 727. the 46re is based of the 727 but they are not the same. 727's dont have o/d. with the lift 30 will look bad so youll probably want to end up getting a set of 33's or equivilant. with that you will want to regear your rear end so it wont affect you milage as much and you will regain some of the low end loss by the bigger tires. something in the range of 4:10 would be grat for you. unless you are expecting an apocolyspe you wont need a reserve tank....heck im building my rig for one and i still dont have a rexerve tank.
also that 245 is crank hp, you probably maybe getting 190 at most to the terra. and with bigger tires you will get even less.
if you want 400 wheel hp youll want to build a 408 stroker or get a procharger. otherwise it will take an insane amount of $ and special parts to crank that much of of a 360. if you do boost or build a 408 you will need better casting heads. and head studs if you do boost. hemifever will be able to program you PCM if you go the forced induction route or if you build a 408.
if you dont want to drop 10 g's on your motor for a 408 or about 5 or so g's for a procharger then you wont get 400 rwhp but you can get a better cam, an airgap intake, better heads, 2.02 valves injectors(require a new PCM program that hemifever can do if you buy one of his SCT's), ceramic coated longtube headers, 3 inch mandrel bent y-pipe, the rest of the exhaust would need to be restriction free for the best performance
also that 245 is crank hp, you probably maybe getting 190 at most to the terra. and with bigger tires you will get even less.
if you want 400 wheel hp youll want to build a 408 stroker or get a procharger. otherwise it will take an insane amount of $ and special parts to crank that much of of a 360. if you do boost or build a 408 you will need better casting heads. and head studs if you do boost. hemifever will be able to program you PCM if you go the forced induction route or if you build a 408.
if you dont want to drop 10 g's on your motor for a 408 or about 5 or so g's for a procharger then you wont get 400 rwhp but you can get a better cam, an airgap intake, better heads, 2.02 valves injectors(require a new PCM program that hemifever can do if you buy one of his SCT's), ceramic coated longtube headers, 3 inch mandrel bent y-pipe, the rest of the exhaust would need to be restriction free for the best performance
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Joined: Sep 2011
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From: cedar hill mo
Its simple, you either get fuel economy or power. One or the other. If you want 400 hp, i would almost garuntee that it would be cheaper and much easier to go buy one from jegs or summit. Theyre about 4 grand.
Heres a semi list of parts:
Probably going to want high volume oil snd water pump $???
E-fan $???
Double roller timing set $50
Intake with gaskets etc $460 for the mopar $600 for the hughes
Cam we'll say $300
Valve springs, retainers to go with the cam will be about $125 or so
Possibly roller rockers for it too $400
If your lucky to find a 340 crank your lookin at $2-300 more
Big gulp throttle body $225
Tranny, figure $2000
Flat top pistons and rings around $700 or so
Valve spring compressor if you dont have one $???
If you go the stroker route on your motor.
Kit is around $2000
Machining costs $???
All new gaskets, seals etc $120
This is all diy stuff, if you csnt do it. You would definitely be better off with buying a crate 408 stroker than paying to have all this done
Heres a semi list of parts:
Probably going to want high volume oil snd water pump $???
E-fan $???
Double roller timing set $50
Intake with gaskets etc $460 for the mopar $600 for the hughes
Cam we'll say $300
Valve springs, retainers to go with the cam will be about $125 or so
Possibly roller rockers for it too $400
If your lucky to find a 340 crank your lookin at $2-300 more
Big gulp throttle body $225
Tranny, figure $2000
Flat top pistons and rings around $700 or so
Valve spring compressor if you dont have one $???
If you go the stroker route on your motor.
Kit is around $2000
Machining costs $???
All new gaskets, seals etc $120
This is all diy stuff, if you csnt do it. You would definitely be better off with buying a crate 408 stroker than paying to have all this done
Legend
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Fredericksburg, Virginia
Just a question, are you in a position where you could or would consider trading in your truck? Newer stock Hemi's are pretty close to 400HP, heck even the '04's are 345Hp.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
Champion
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Ft Campbell, KY/TN
BOOST:
http://www.bionicdodge.com/bionic/in...p?topic=9467.0
Costs about 3500-4000 with all parts and tuning. 308 RWHP is a beast with 4 PSI. 10 pSI will get you 413 RWHP, but you will need a new intake (One piece) and head studs because it will eventually blow if you don't.
PATC tranny is 2400-2700 plus freight.
So, you can basically get a used 2003 with a Hemi for that plus the price of your trade in.
I think there are only about 3 or 4 guys with 400HP trucks on this forum (RWHP) and most are drag strip only AND 410 strokers.
http://www.bionicdodge.com/bionic/in...p?topic=9467.0
Costs about 3500-4000 with all parts and tuning. 308 RWHP is a beast with 4 PSI. 10 pSI will get you 413 RWHP, but you will need a new intake (One piece) and head studs because it will eventually blow if you don't.
PATC tranny is 2400-2700 plus freight.
So, you can basically get a used 2003 with a Hemi for that plus the price of your trade in.
I think there are only about 3 or 4 guys with 400HP trucks on this forum (RWHP) and most are drag strip only AND 410 strokers.
Professional
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X2...it would actually be cheaper to just trade you truck in. And easier.
Champion
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: NorCal
Specs: Ram 1500 2wd
360CI 5.9L V8
1/4 ton suspension
Im new to owning a Dodge Pick-up. What I do want to know is what would be the best thing to do such as:
Lift size
Tire Size
Engine Modification (Im aiming to obtain 400 HP)
True Dual's or Cat-back's
Im trying to do all this without over-compromising my trucks FE, since right about now she's running 18mpg HW and 15 city
PLEASE DO GIVE ME YOUR (PROFESSIONAL!!) OPINION!
360CI 5.9L V8
1/4 ton suspension
Im new to owning a Dodge Pick-up. What I do want to know is what would be the best thing to do such as:
Lift size
Tire Size
Engine Modification (Im aiming to obtain 400 HP)
True Dual's or Cat-back's
Im trying to do all this without over-compromising my trucks FE, since right about now she's running 18mpg HW and 15 city
PLEASE DO GIVE ME YOUR (PROFESSIONAL!!) OPINION!
Record Breaker
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Charleston, SC
wait i just caught it. he listed his truck as having a quater-ton suspension(1500's are 1/2 ton trucks)..... i think that in all honesty (and no offense meant by this) that the op needs to spend a very long time researching his vehicle and the stuff he wants to do, and then take it to a shop and have them do the work. with that first post he very clearly know very little about his truck as a stock vehicle and even less about how to make it more powerful...once again i state that no offense was intended.
