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1999 5.2L misses at idle, stumbles at +2,800 RPM's
My 2003 Ram went down from electrical issues so I pulled my toy out. My '99 Ram fired right up and I started to work, after about 15 miles I came to a stoplight. The light turned green. and I went to take off. She started spitting and bucking and shut down about half a mile later. My dad tried tow starting me, and after a little bit I could get her to run if I kept throttle on her, although she was smoking and backfiring. I thought it was water in the fuel, so I bought two bottles of HEET and five gallons of 93 octane fuel. I put the fuel and one bottle of HEET in the tank and got towed again to start home. I forced her to make it home, fighting and backfiring all the way. I pulled the timing cover and found she had jumped time, so I replaced the chain and tried cranking her. Nothing. I figured I had warped the valvetrain, so I pulled a spare set of working heads and good pushrods and installed them, with all the appropriate gaskets. She cranked up, but ran poorly, and I got a code P1391, intermittent loss of cam or crank sensor. I had replaced the crank sensor not too long ago, so I bought a new cam sensor from Mopar. Still the same thing. I read an article about cam/crank sync and how to rough set it, which I did. That got her drivable, but still not right. I went to the dealership today to have the sync set. It was off by -18 degrees. But she still exhibits much the same behavior. Idling rough, a brick wall at 2,800 RPM's, except now I have misfire codes for cylinders 7, 3, 2, and 6, along with a random misfire code. These were not there before.
I was told it might be a MAP sensor, but I wonder if all that raw fuel escaping fried my 02 sensors? The truck ran great until she jumped time, and I thought I had replaced anything mechanical that might have been damaged...... |
What do your spark plugs look like, especially on those cylinders? Also the wires, cap and rotor? First thing I would do is check wires and plugs are good and correctly routed. Then check compression and see what you get.
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Almost sounds like a restricted cat issue . Can you pull the upstream 02 at the cat and try running it w/o to test ?
Check fuel pressure with a gauge . May be too high As asked , nice to know if the plugs can tell anything from a visual |
Originally Posted by onegoodmason
(Post 3239005)
Almost sounds like a restricted cat issue . Can you pull the upstream 02 at the cat and try running it w/o to test ?
Check fuel pressure with a gauge . May be too high As asked , nice to know if the plugs can tell anything from a visual Working on the fuel pressure now. If the pressure tests out, I'll pull some plugs. I noticed today, that if you back way off the throttle or in lower gears, I can exceed the 3,000 RPM mark. Its only on moderate to heavy throttle that it bucks and stumbles. Any thoughts? |
Alright, I finally got my fuel pressure gauge hooked up in a makeshift way. By makeshift, I mean I had to remove the schrader valve and band clamp a piece of rubber to the test port. I had a friend crank her up while I watched the gauge. It held a steady 50 PSI all through cranking, the rough idle, and the unwilling rev-up. It still stumbled at idle, and yet, still held a steady 50 PSI.
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Could be a tps, A bad plenum gasket is synonymous for misfires.
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Sounds like a coil issue I had years ago with another vehicle. It would idle, but put a load on it and it didn't want to run.
Just saying.... |
How old are your O2 sensors? Although, I would think those would cause issues at smaller throttle openings, as opposed to larger...... Tried some fuel system cleaner?
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
(Post 3239466)
How old are your O2 sensors? Although, I would think those would cause issues at smaller throttle openings, as opposed to larger...... Tried some fuel system cleaner?
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Cam or crank sensor would be my first guess. (assuming the rest of the ignition parts are up to snuff.)
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