steer clear of quicktrip
it is going on in selected cities. i know in the tulsa area it is goin on, but you may want to steer clear of qt anyway
Here is a word of warning All the Tulsa QuickTrip gasoline stations now have 10% ethanol in there gasoline's. There is no law that says they have to disclose this. That is why they are cheaper than other stations because alcohol cost less than gas. The ethanol has only 2/3 the energy of gasoline and you will get 4% less mpg with gasoline that contains it. Also it will mess up your air fuel ratio and could cause your air fuel ratio to go lean which is a real danger if you use forced induction and you might have to compensate by adding 5% more fuel. It can also be harmful to seals in older carbueatored vehicles. Please call the QuickTrip corporate office in national office in Tulsa and complain if you don't want this garbage in your gas. 918 615 7700.
Here is a word of warning All the Tulsa QuickTrip gasoline stations now have 10% ethanol in there gasoline's. There is no law that says they have to disclose this. That is why they are cheaper than other stations because alcohol cost less than gas. The ethanol has only 2/3 the energy of gasoline and you will get 4% less mpg with gasoline that contains it. Also it will mess up your air fuel ratio and could cause your air fuel ratio to go lean which is a real danger if you use forced induction and you might have to compensate by adding 5% more fuel. It can also be harmful to seals in older carbueatored vehicles. Please call the QuickTrip corporate office in national office in Tulsa and complain if you don't want this garbage in your gas. 918 615 7700.
Get yer foil hats on folks... I've never noticed a change in mileage using a 10% ethanol blend and your manual should also state it is acceptable for use. Why complain? Ethanol is probably a better injector/top end cleaner than any of the other additives they could use.
Your truck will perform just fine with this blend, as this blend has been standard at all stations in Michigan (where they make and design the vehicle) for as long as I've been driving 6 years and I'm pretty sure its been longer than that.
ORIGINAL: Altair
Actually Ethanol has less energy than gasoline so you will get lower mileage than if you were using 100% gas.
Actually Ethanol has less energy than gasoline so you will get lower mileage than if you were using 100% gas.
Welcome to what most everyone else is already using.
In Northern Illinois, they must have been using 10% for about 10 years now.
IIRC, all the pumps I've been tohave a sticker that says something along the lines, "This gas has about 10% ethanol."
But, than again, I don't try to find a station that doesn't carry it, so I just ignore the sticker.
In Northern Illinois, they must have been using 10% for about 10 years now.
IIRC, all the pumps I've been tohave a sticker that says something along the lines, "This gas has about 10% ethanol."
But, than again, I don't try to find a station that doesn't carry it, so I just ignore the sticker.
Dodgerules86 is right, northern states have had 10% ethanol in them for years...and they seem to be working fine...
DOE has an article with some informaiton http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/fuel...ol_blends.html
Methanol on the other hand is not good, but I have not seen that in years...
DOE has an article with some informaiton http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/fuel...ol_blends.html
Methanol on the other hand is not good, but I have not seen that in years...
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Here in PA, we have some ethanol in our gas at all times, and they greatly increase that blend in the winter. My MPGs actually drop a good 1-1.5 mpg during the winter months because of the increase ethanol in the fuel mixture. I wish I could quote percentages, but I just don't know that information.
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Here in PA, we have some ethanol in our gas at all times, and they greatly increase that blend in the winter. My MPGs actually drop a good 1-1.5 mpg during the winter months because of the increase ethanol in the fuel mixture. I wish I could quote percentages, but I just don't know that information.
Here in PA, we have some ethanol in our gas at all times, and they greatly increase that blend in the winter. My MPGs actually drop a good 1-1.5 mpg during the winter months because of the increase ethanol in the fuel mixture. I wish I could quote percentages, but I just don't know that information.

Tell me about it. We only have about 3 weeks left of the good summer gas 'til they switch. It's usually done mid-October. I'm enjoying every 18-19mpg tank while I can.



