a long time ago i had some shocks installed and they were terrible, come to find out they were the jeep liberty shocks. looks the same but not at all compatible with our trucks. here is what our frt looks like

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are there any part #'s with that. It'd be so much easier to compare part number for those control arms and knuckle to see if we can disect other lifts from maybe jeeps or older gen dakotas

 

I just saw a lifted Jeep Liberty today. Not much, maybe just a 3" lift with 33s or so. How can there be aftermarket parts to lift a LIBERTY and not our trucks?!

 

1 06507654AA 4 BOLT, Hex Flange Head, UCA to
Frame, Mounting
2 06502696 6 NUT, Hex Flange Lock, M14x1.50,
Shock Mount to Frame, Mounting
3 06508175AA 4 LOCK NUT, M14-2.00, UCA to
Frame, Mounting
4 52855100AC 2 ARM, Upper Control, FrontRight or
Left
5 06508484AA 4 SCREW, Hex Flange Head, LCA to
Frame, Mounting
6 ARM, Lower Control, Front
52855106AB 1 With 3 Bushings, Right
52855107AB 1 With 3 Bushings, Left
7 05161685AB 1 BALL JOINT PACKAGE, Lower
Control Arm, With Snap Ring, Right
or Left
-8 05161418AA 1 RING, Ball Joint
9 06508351AA 2 BOLT, Hex Flange Head, Shock to
LCA, Mounting
10 06102252AA 2 NUT, Hex Flange Lock, Shock to
LCA, Mounting
11 06505623AA 2 NUT AND WASHER, UCA Ball
Joint to Knuckle, Mounting
12 KNUCKLE, Front
52855116AA 1 Right
52855117AA 1 Left
13 06505682AA 2 NUT, Hex Flange Lock, M16x1.5,
LCA Ball Joint to Knuckle, Mounting
14 BUSHING, Control Arm
52855112AB 1 To Frame, Front
52855113AB 1 To Frame, Rear
15 06508318AA 4 NUT, LCA to Frame, Mounting
16 06508320AA 4 WASHER, Control Arm, LCA to
Frame, Mounting
17 06506276AA 1 NUT, Hex Flange Lock, M12x1.75,
Upper Shock, Mounting
18 52013484AC 1 MOUNT, Shock Upper
19 55366387AA 1 ISOLATOR, Spring, Rubber
20 55366975AA 1 ISOLATOR, Spring Seat, Plastic
21 52013672AA 1 COLLAR, Shock Absorber
22 52013486AA 1 GROMMET, Shock Absorber
23 52013485AA 1 SHIELD, Shock Absorber Dust
24 SPRING, Front Coil
52855670AB 1 [ZBF,ZCA,ZPF,ZRA]
52855671AB 1 [ZBG,ZBJ,ZCB,ZEA,ZPG,ZPJ,ZRB,ZTA]
52855672AB 1 [ZBH,ZBK,ZCC,ZCE,ZEB,ZEF,ZPH,ZPK,52855673AB 1 [ZBL,ZCD,ZCF,ZEC,ZEG,ZPL,ZRD,ZRF,52855674AB 1 [ZBM,ZCG,ZED,ZEH,ZPM,ZRG,ZTD,52855675AB 1 [ZCH,ZEE,ZEJ,ZRH,ZTE,ZTJ]
25 SHOCK ABSORBER PACKAGE,
Suspension, Front
05174563AC 1 [ZCA,ZCB,ZCC,ZCD,ZRA,ZRB,ZRC,05174564AC 1 [ZCE,ZCF,ZCG,ZCH,ZRE,ZRF,ZRG,05175435AC 1 [ZBF,ZBG,ZBH,ZPF,ZPG,ZPH]
05175436AC 1 [ZEF,ZEG,ZEH,ZEJ,ZTF,ZTG,ZTH,ZTJ]
05175437AC 1 [ZBJ,ZBK,ZBL,ZBM,ZPJ,ZPK,ZPL,ZPM]
05183932AA 1 [ZEA,ZEB,ZEC,ZED,ZEE,ZTA,ZTB,

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holy crap, I hope that was a copy and paste.

Thanks though. When I get some time I need to cross reference that with Jeep and older gen Daks

 

hey you guys are on this! hopefully you guys make a break on this. It sure would be nice it the ram strut and ours are similar. maybe a little tweaking here or there will do the job... good luck guys

 

studlyblueiz: what measurements would you need from a Ram strut to know if they would work on ours? I've been speaking with someone who is selling some and I could probably ask them to take a few measurements of them if I knew what to ask for

 

OK guys, got the Ram shock today. Not all good but not all bad either. In summary; The lower bracket is a match but the strut body is 1-3/4" longer and the spring perch is 1/2" bigger ID. The extra length could be handled by making fabbing a "top hat" into the upper strut mount but the DAK spring isn't going to slide over the strut so that'sa problem! Then maybe we could just use a Ram Spring and have a 1-3/4" lift ?(Ram only weighs 500lbs more so who could use a little firmer ride) Anyone got one to measure?
Here arethe strut measurements;

Item DAK RAM
Inside Yoke 2-3/4"2-3/4"
Yoke Depth 2"2"
O/A body 11" 12-3/4"
Spring Perch ID 2" 2-1/2"
Spring Perch OD3-5/16"4-3/8"
Free shaft (stroke)4-3/4" 6-1/4"
Shaft Diam. 14mm18mm
Body Diam 1-5/8" 2-3/16"
nut threads 12x1.25mm12x1.5mm




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Actually, dj the "free shaft" delta is 1.5" and without a coil there's no conformation that you'll actually gain 1.5" of lift. Not to mention that 1.5" is full droop...most of our trucks don't ride around on full droop Now if we assume ideally, that dodge designed both struts equally for nominal loading at the center of the shaft for equal travel, then we should see half that droop as lift. Continuing on that assumption, then that would mean the Ram strut has 1.5" more droop + the extra 3/4" of lift.

Now what that means is that this should work just fine with 2wd (as always ) because they don't suffer extreme CV axles angles. That 1.5 is equivalent to the Truxx lift except with a heavier strut and longer coil.

If I could prove/confirm that parts of Rancho's 3" lift would work with ours then we could get somewhere for 4x4's. All we need is to lower the differential and control arms. Then we could substitute in Rancho's 06+ Ram Quick Lift for 3" of lift with little-no change in allowable suspension travel..

2wd could get away with it too if they just lowered their control arms. I wouldn't recommend it without it.

 

You're right that even using Ram springs you wouldn't really know where you've landed until you install them. For folks that want a 2" lift, using the ram struts with Ram springs may be just the ticket. If someone could access the spring rate data, you could look at using springs off of different versions of the Ram (different engines, club vs quad, etc) for different spring rates.

I'll have to take one of my struts back apart for more study but I've had another idea after posting pictures;

I could possibly turn the spring upside down and make it work with the Ram shock and keep the truck at stock ride height (I don't want to raise mine) The trouble is that at stock ride height I'll have 1-3/4" more shock body length which means 1-1/2" less compression room before bottoming out. The Ram strut came with a bump stop that was about 1-1/2" long and my recollection is that the DAK bump stop was about twice that long so that problem may solve itself because of the difference in bump stop lengths. The issue of where in the shock's travel you ride would be an issue with the Monroe Sensatrac that's differentially machined but I just got it for purpose of fit testing. If I do this I'll use Skyjackers or another brand that use a different method where this won't be an issue. I'll study this and report back....,