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Old 06-08-2010 | 03:19 PM
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You know when I first read this I should have caught it, but I just read your last post and I realized you problem. I am pretty sure dex-cool is mostly used in GM Vehicles. Plus, I just verified in the OM...which you should have read it BAD! Anyways this is probably the reason of your downfall!

Caution:
Mixing of coolants other than specified HOAT engine
coolants, may result in engine damage and may
decrease corrosion protection. If a non-HOAT coolant
is introduced into the cooling system in an
emergency, it should be replaced with the specified
coolant as soon as possible.
Do not use plain water alone or alcohol base engine
coolant (antifreeze) products. Do not use additional
rust inhibitors or antirust products, as they may not
be compatible with the radiator engine coolant and
may plug the radiator.
This vehicle has not been designed for use with
Propylene Glycol based coolants. Use of Propylene
Glycol based coolants is not recommended.
 
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Old 06-08-2010 | 11:32 PM
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So our trucks dont use DEX COOL? And i didnt mix coolants i completly flushed it and chang3ed coolents
 
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Old 06-09-2010 | 08:36 AM
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Ok LGHTNGBLT02, in reference to your quote:
Caution:
Mixing of coolants other than specified HOAT engine
coolants, may result in engine damage and may
decrease corrosion protection. If a non-HOAT coolant
is introduced into the cooling system in an
emergency, it should be replaced with the specified
coolant as soon as possible.
Do not use plain water alone or alcohol base engine
coolant (antifreeze) products. Do not use additional
rust inhibitors or antirust products, as they may not
be compatible with the radiator engine coolant and
may plug the radiator.
This vehicle has not been designed for use with
Propylene Glycol based coolants. Use of Propylene
Glycol based coolants is not recommended.

I have not heard of HOAT coolant. What is it ? I'm familiar with ethelene-glycol and am planning on flushing/replacing the coolant very soon. I was going to use Prestone anti-freeze like I have in previous vehicles. While doing it, I am going with a 180 degree thermostat.
 
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Old 06-09-2010 | 10:10 AM
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HOAT means Hybrid Organic Acid Technology (HOAT) formulation, its newer and better than OAT (Dex cool) without all the downsides like the sludging up, gasket deterioration, etc. From what I read HOAT will gel up if mixed with another coolant, hence The reason they say if you need to use another coolant in an emergency to get it replaced ASAP. On the up side HOAT has extended life properties and is easier on gaskets and such. Also I understand you can use the normal ethylene glycol after a thorough flushing, you just wont get the life-cycle of HOAT or the protection it offers.

Here's the word right from Chrysler:

DESCRIPTION - ENGINE COOLANT
WARNING: ANTIFREEZE IS AN ETHYLENE GLYCOL BASE COOLANT AND IS HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED. IF SWALLOWED, DRINK TWO GLASSES OF WATER AND INDUCE VOMITING. IF INHALED, MOVE TO FRESH AIR AREA. SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT STORE IN OPEN OR UNMARKED CONTAINERS. WASH SKIN AND CLOTHING THOROUGHLY AFTER COMING IN CONTACT WITH ETHYLENE GLYCOL. KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. DISPOSE OF GLYCOL BASE COOLANT PROPERLY, CONTACT YOUR DEALER OR GOVERNMENT AGENCY FOR LOCATION OF COLLECTION CENTER IN YOUR AREA. DO NOT OPEN A COOLING SYSTEM WHEN THE ENGINE IS AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE OR HOT UNDER PRESSURE, PERSONAL INJURY CAN RESULT. AVOID RADIATOR COOLING FAN WHEN ENGINE COMPARTMENT RELATED SERVICE IS PERFORMED, PERSONAL INJURY CAN RESULT.

CAUTION: Use of Propylene Glycol based coolants is not recommended, as they provide less freeze protection and less boiling protection.

The cooling system is designed around the coolant. The coolant must accept heat from engine metal, in the cylinder head area near the exhaust valves and engine block. Then coolant carries the heat to the radiator where the tube/fin radiator can transfer the heat to the air.

The use of aluminum cylinder blocks, cylinder heads, and water pumps requires special corrosion protection. Mopar® Antifreeze/Coolant, 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769), or the equivalent ethylene glycol base coolant with hybrid organic corrosion inhibitors (called HOAT, for Hybrid Organic Additive Technology) is recommended. This coolant offers the best engine cooling without corrosion when mixed with 50% Ethylene Glycol and 50% distilled water to obtain a freeze point of -37°C (-35°F). If it loses color or becomes contaminated, drain, flush, and replace with fresh properly mixed coolant solution.

The green coolant MUST NOT BE MIXED with the orange or magenta coolants. When replacing coolant the complete system flush must be performed before using the replacement coolant.

CAUTION: Mopar® Antifreeze/Coolant, 5 Year/100,000 Mile Formula (MS-9769) may not be mixed with any other type of antifreeze. Doing so will reduce the corrosion protection and may result in premature water pump seal failure. If non-HOAT coolant is introduced into the cooling system in an emergency, it should be replaced with the specified coolant as soon as possible.
Also take a look at these:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HOAT+Coolant
 
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Old 06-09-2010 | 10:13 AM
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so where do we get this HOAT coolent
 
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Old 06-09-2010 | 10:25 AM
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Dealer or local parts store, just ask for Zerex G05 thats the common name.
 
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Old 06-09-2010 | 10:27 AM
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ok thank you
 



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