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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 03:10 AM
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First time post here, hoping to find an answer. Just changed the clutch in my 2005 Dodge Dakota 4.7 4x4 quadcab. I have no pressure (0%) in my shift pedal. I took the transmission out to check the clutch fork and throwout bearing which were correctly installed ( In my opinion). So I belive its the slave cylinder and read you cant bleed them. So i read online where you can put the slave cylinder above the master and push the pedal in on the slave slowly and bubbles will come out of the reservoir. Still not working. I also read you need the pedal facing towards the ground when you do this which I dint do. Any ideas or suggestions? The slave cylinder and master worked fine before I changed the clutch.

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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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One would think that to help encourage the air out of the system, slave should be below the master to let gravity help the fluid move towards the slave cylinder.

Question. Is the pedal up all the way? If for some reason it isn't, the port could be blocked and not allowing the fluid to move.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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I've worked on a few manuals, and never found a slave without a bleeder.
 
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@Locatus The pedal is all the way up. It said something about where air can hide in the slave cylinder. I will post the link up and see what it says. @ Jaded (The clutch]/slave cylinder assembly on 05+ Rams and Dakotas (maybe older too) is one piece and is assembled, filled and bled at the factory.According to Dodge, this unit cannot be serviced and must be replaced whole. Also, there is no factory procedure for this system. ) This is where i read about my problem. https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...utch-assy.html Still Thinking about all what it could be. If i needed to bleed the clutch would i still get a little bit of pedal? Thanks for the replies. What should I try to do first. Could it be a backwards clutch disk?
 

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sgtjet
@Locatus The pedal is all the way up. It said something about where air can hide in the slave cylinder. I will post the link up and see what it says. @ Jaded (The clutch]/slave cylinder assembly on 05+ Rams and Dakotas (maybe older too) is one piece and is assembled, filled and bled at the factory.According to Dodge, this unit cannot be serviced and must be replaced whole. Also, there is no factory procedure for this system. ) This is where i read about my problem. https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...utch-assy.html Still Thinking about all what it could be. If i needed to bleed the clutch would i still get a little bit of pedal? Thanks for the replies. What should I try to do first. Could it be a backwards clutch disk?
If you haven't downloaded the manual offered on this forum, you should do so. The clutch is described in chapter 6, and it does say that you could get these symptoms with a disk installed backwards. The clutch system is fairly simple, it only has the master, slave, and pedal to apply pressure & clutch plate pressure to push the cylinder back. I'd first see if the slave operated when you pressed on the pedal - you may need 2 people to do this. If the slave cylinder moves, you most likely have a mechanical problem like an improper assembly.

If the slave doesn't move, or if it's very weak, you'll need to determine is it's the master or the slave (you can pressure test the system to see if the master actually creates & holds the required pressure). If it's either cylinder, I believe you'll need to replace the one that's shot - these days, all those things are throw-away items. You can find yourself an older style that is bleedable and repairable, but you'd probably need to make yourself a mounting adapter.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Thats nice of Dodge to spread the love to you manual guys too. If the aftermarket makes one with a bleeder I'd say thats money well spent. Hope you get it working sgtjet.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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There is a tiny orifice where the cable joins. (it's two pieces) and that traps the bubbles from coming through.... Peice of crap design. Ive had to replace mine after I pushed the pedal thru the floor in a panic stop.

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https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...ride-home.html
 

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