2005 4.7L 6sp Dakota Front End Pop/Click
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Have an 05 Dakota that makes a pop / click from front end when initially moving forward or letting off gas to shift and then accelerating again. Pop is fairly loud and noticeable in the cabin and seems is louder when noise is made and going uphill. Is only once and not a re-occurring bad bearing repetitive type of noise, is more like something needs a real good grease metal to metal torque and stress click. Don't notice it happen when in reverse.
CV joints replaced new both sides, brakes done pads & rotors within 7k miles, swing arm bushings replaced. Both sides new hubs this year, new oem calipers, brake line hoses have been replaced
Front drive shaft in the front has about 1.5-2" of rotational play but is tight in and moves with the shaft conical housing that connects shaft to the transfer case. I was told my 2 mechanics that amount of play is ok / normal as long as the joint isnt moving freely from the socket of housing but. Other things to note this started to occur after this time i had braked very hard on a downhill slope. Lost power steering at time and fluid flush fixed (has been a problem before but is fine now)
Everything the noise does leads me to believe its coming from the drive shaft or suspension and forward movement torque related not a problem with the internal gears. Noise isnt grinding sounding. all fluids changed and transfer case was good when checked. Also does not appear to be caused by steering as its a forward motion that causes the noise will do when going straight.
Any ideas please let me know. have a video below that is similar to the noise i have
CV joints replaced new both sides, brakes done pads & rotors within 7k miles, swing arm bushings replaced. Both sides new hubs this year, new oem calipers, brake line hoses have been replaced
Front drive shaft in the front has about 1.5-2" of rotational play but is tight in and moves with the shaft conical housing that connects shaft to the transfer case. I was told my 2 mechanics that amount of play is ok / normal as long as the joint isnt moving freely from the socket of housing but. Other things to note this started to occur after this time i had braked very hard on a downhill slope. Lost power steering at time and fluid flush fixed (has been a problem before but is fine now)
Everything the noise does leads me to believe its coming from the drive shaft or suspension and forward movement torque related not a problem with the internal gears. Noise isnt grinding sounding. all fluids changed and transfer case was good when checked. Also does not appear to be caused by steering as its a forward motion that causes the noise will do when going straight.
Any ideas please let me know. have a video below that is similar to the noise i have
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So if my truck was an auto i would believe to hear the click once during accel. 99% of the time hear it 3 times because the weight transfer load under stop to 1st, 1st to 2nd is greater than say 4th to 5th. if I'm in first and make the truck hop (accel let off accel let off accel let off) it will do it each time. Also this does not or at least has not occurred in reverse.
Not trying to pick apart ball joints being the case just looking to minimize the next set of bills and hoping it will be the last and final fix for the noise.
Last edited by xNeed6SpeedX; 12-16-2016 at 06:42 PM.
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This was a thread I created a couple years ago for a similar-sounding problem:
**Attention anyone experiencing a "bump" or "jolt" just before or after a stop**
The issue was that the slip yoke on the fore-end of the rear drive shaft was binding upon initial acceleration, and needed to be lubricated. It appears the pics I posted in that thread no longer work, but I can re-post them here if you need.
**Attention anyone experiencing a "bump" or "jolt" just before or after a stop**
The issue was that the slip yoke on the fore-end of the rear drive shaft was binding upon initial acceleration, and needed to be lubricated. It appears the pics I posted in that thread no longer work, but I can re-post them here if you need.
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This was a thread I created a couple years ago for a similar-sounding problem:
**Attention anyone experiencing a "bump" or "jolt" just before or after a stop**
The issue was that the slip yoke on the fore-end of the rear drive shaft was binding upon initial acceleration, and needed to be lubricated. It appears the pics I posted in that thread no longer work, but I can re-post them here if you need.
**Attention anyone experiencing a "bump" or "jolt" just before or after a stop**
The issue was that the slip yoke on the fore-end of the rear drive shaft was binding upon initial acceleration, and needed to be lubricated. It appears the pics I posted in that thread no longer work, but I can re-post them here if you need.
Also if I had only got the noise upon first accelerating this would make sense but it will also happen if I am already in motion too. A more extreme transfer of weight on some part of the mechanics still is my best guess like something is being stressed or torqued (springs or shocks?). The harder the initial acceleration or shift to second the louder and more pronounced the noise will be.
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Much appreciated, all set with the pics..I have no issue with a binding or locking. Everything seems to be mechanically sound which is why this noise is throwing me off so much. Both mechanics have said there is nothing at least upon exterior examination wrong with the driveshaft or shaft components. I do trust both mechanics opinions and keep falling back to the idea this will turn out to be some small obscure part that may be easy to overlook.
Also if I had only got the noise upon first accelerating this would make sense but it will also happen if I am already in motion too. A more extreme transfer of weight on some part of the mechanics still is my best guess like something is being stressed or torqued (springs or shocks?). The harder the initial acceleration or shift to second the louder and more pronounced the noise will be.
Also if I had only got the noise upon first accelerating this would make sense but it will also happen if I am already in motion too. A more extreme transfer of weight on some part of the mechanics still is my best guess like something is being stressed or torqued (springs or shocks?). The harder the initial acceleration or shift to second the louder and more pronounced the noise will be.
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Much appreciated, all set with the pics..I have no issue with a binding or locking. Everything seems to be mechanically sound which is why this noise is throwing me off so much. Both mechanics have said there is nothing at least upon exterior examination wrong with the driveshaft or shaft components. I do trust both mechanics opinions and keep falling back to the idea this will turn out to be some small obscure part that may be easy to overlook.
In my opinion, it sounds almost exactly what you're getting at here:
Also if I had only got the noise upon first accelerating this would make sense but it will also happen if I am already in motion too. A more extreme transfer of weight on some part of the mechanics still is my best guess like something is being stressed or torqued (springs or shocks?). The harder the initial acceleration or shift to second the louder and more pronounced the noise will be.
Ditto.
Last edited by erau; 12-22-2016 at 04:46 PM.