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What kind of oil is good to use for 2014 durango r/t?

Old Oct 13, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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Personally I think oil discussions should be banned from the internet. It's akin to religion. The only significant difference from one to another is marketing. As for the run of the mill V8s that Chrysler produces, not one of them requires synthetic oil. Oil makers will be happy to convince you otherwise, but your 100K mile power train warranty is safe with regular crude.
Can we add "What octane gas should I use?" to that ban?

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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JRRF
Personally I think oil discussions should be banned from the internet. It's akin to religion. The only significant difference from one to another is marketing. As for the run of the mill V8s that Chrysler produces, not one of them requires synthetic oil. Oil makers will be happy to convince you otherwise, but your 100K mile power train warranty is safe with regular crude.
It's not the first 100,000 I'm worried about.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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As stated in the owner's manual:

"Engine Oil Selection
For best performance and maximum protection under all
types of operating conditions, the manufacturer only
recommends engine oils that are API Certified and meet
the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395."

Just follow the manufacturer's recommendations. Also check this link which I got when I Googled Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395: http://jeepoffroadadventures.com/wp/?page_id=787
 
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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 05:33 PM
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Mobile 1 doesnt meet the standard for a 2014

w-20 that meets Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395:
Havoline, Quaker State, Pennzoil

From the 2014 Manual:
Engine Oil Viscosity — 3.6L/5.7L Engines
MOPAR® SAE 5W-20 engine oil approved to Chrysler
Material Standard MS-6395 or equivalent Pennzoil® or
Shell Helix® is recommended for all operating temperatures.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MIKEon22s
Mobile 1 doesnt meet the standard for a 2014

w-20 that meets Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395:
Havoline, Quaker State, Pennzoil

From the 2014 Manual:
Engine Oil Viscosity — 3.6L/5.7L Engines
MOPAR® SAE 5W-20 engine oil approved to Chrysler
Material Standard MS-6395 or equivalent Pennzoil® or
Shell Helix® is recommended for all operating temperatures.
While it's true that Mobil One doesn't meet the standard, I have heard rumors that the reason they don't meet it is because they didn't submit to Chrysler's testing (which meant $$$$$ they had to spend) to be able to be "approved." If you ran Mobil 1 in your car, you probably wouldn't have an issue.

FTR, I use Pennzoil Ultra in mine. $27 for a 5 quart jug from WalMart. Can't beat it. Platinum is $25 for 5 quarts. In my experience, Ultra lasts longer so I run with that.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mcfarl58
While it's true that Mobil One doesn't meet the standard, I have heard rumors that the reason they don't meet it is because they didn't submit to Chrysler's testing (which meant $$$$$ they had to spend) to be able to be "approved." If you ran Mobil 1 in your car, you probably wouldn't have an issue.

FTR, I use Pennzoil Ultra in mine. $27 for a 5 quart jug from WalMart. Can't beat it. Platinum is $25 for 5 quarts. In my experience, Ultra lasts longer so I run with that.
I always want to chuckle when someone claims one oil lasts longer than another. There is absolutely zero evidence of this beyond marketing claims. Today your car tells you when to change your oil for the sake of your warranty, and it can't tell what's in there.


As for Mobile 1 vs. anything else, when your engine blows up and they pull it out to replace it, they aren't going to analyze your oil and say: "uh oh, you used Mobil 1 so your warranty is toast". :-)
 
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Old Oct 15, 2015 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JRRF
I always want to chuckle when someone claims one oil lasts longer than another. There is absolutely zero evidence of this beyond marketing claims. Today your car tells you when to change your oil for the sake of your warranty, and it can't tell what's in there.


As for Mobile 1 vs. anything else, when your engine blows up and they pull it out to replace it, they aren't going to analyze your oil and say: "uh oh, you used Mobil 1 so your warranty is toast". :-)

I don't think pennzoil markets that ultra lasts longer. My evidence is by experience. I change my oil when it hits 40% oil life left. I also document the mileage. With Platinum I was getting about 5500 miles between changes. Now that Ultra is back in the 5 quart jugs in my area (been a year or so that it wasn't), I've been getting 7000 miles between changes with Ultra.

Plus with the higher temperatures in the Hemi (oil temp in the 210-220 range) I feel more comfortable going with the better quality. It's an extra $3 or so, so it's not like it's crazy money.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2015 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mcfarl58
I don't think pennzoil markets that ultra lasts longer. My evidence is by experience. I change my oil when it hits 40% oil life left. I also document the mileage. With Platinum I was getting about 5500 miles between changes. Now that Ultra is back in the 5 quart jugs in my area (been a year or so that it wasn't), I've been getting 7000 miles between changes with Ultra.

Plus with the higher temperatures in the Hemi (oil temp in the 210-220 range) I feel more comfortable going with the better quality. It's an extra $3 or so, so it's not like it's crazy money.
Sorry to break it to you, but the oil change logic has nothing to do with how dirty/spent your oil actually is.

All new engines run hotter today because of all the emission controls. Unfortunately the "hemi" in our D's is hardly unique. In 1967 it was quite different, and had some advantages over "regular" engines, but today it's actually not the best option.

It's still cool to say you have a "hemi" :-) , but in automotive technology terms, it's no longer special.

Throw any old standard commercial automotive oil in there that meets the manufacturers recommendations, and you D will be junk for a hundred other reasons long before the engine craps out.
 
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