3rd Gen Durango 2011+ models

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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I have an issue with my 2011 durango citadel 5.7 Hemi spuddering when Im slightly applying gas padal at around 45-65 mph. This has been an issue since I purchased it with 60,000 miles on it and there is no check engine light on and I have had it to 2 different dealerships to look at it and they tell me that it is common and that it is because it is the module that switches it from 6 to 8 cylinders. I have test drove 2 other identical vehicles to see if they do the same thing and they do not. I have asked many people about this with no luck. I have had the fuel pump recall taken care of and same issue still. It does not ever stall but it is driving me nuts. Feels like Im driving a clunker which sucks cause I am almost at 100,000 miles and will have no warrenty left. Any advise?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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May be the same as this tab? Fixed mine.

SUBJECT:
Flash: Surge, Shudder or Pulsation at Highway Speeds
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control
Module (PCM) with new software.
NOTE: This is an optional software update that should only be used in situations
where the customer is specifically complaining of the condition described
below.
MODELS:
2012 - 2013 (WK) Grand Cherokee
2012 - 2013 (WD) Durango
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 5.7L engine (sales code
EZH).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
A small number of customers may experience a surge, shudder or pulsation type
sensation when driving on smooth road surfaces at highway speeds of 40-80 mph (64-129
km/h). Some customers may also describe the sensation similar to that of a fish biting on a
fishing line.

With my exhaust, the MDS system is obvious when it changes 4/8 it's like two different cars.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 06:15 PM
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Thanks,I will give that a try.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:20 PM
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He said his is a 2011, that TSB is for 2012-2013. Search this forum for "fish bite" there was a Star case and several threads on this.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:52 PM
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Figured late production might have the same issue
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Fish bite.. Fill the tank with 93 once and see if its better? if so it's fish bite.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Try a can of SeaFoam
 
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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Don't waste your money or time buying additives to add to your tank of gas. I tried every brand of additive and the 2012 DD still had the "fish bite" at freeway speeds issue.


The only way I got the "fish bite" to go away, was by getting the flash/software update. Call your dealership and or FCA to find out if a flash/software update is needed and will fix the "fish bite" problem.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 11:00 AM
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Maybe there is a vacume leak? Where is the last time you cleaned the IAC?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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I found a TSB that may be related to your concerns. It involves updating the Drivetrain Control Module:

TSB 21-004-13

SUBJECT:
Flash: Drivetrain Control Module (DCTM) - Transfer Case Operational Enhancements

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves flashing the Drivetrain Control Module (DCTM)

MODELS:
2011 WD Durango
2011 WK Grand Cherokee

NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with the QUADRA-TRAC II 4WD
System or Two Speed On Demand Transfer Case (Sales Code DKA) and the
215MM Rear Axle (Sales Code DPP) with the 3.06 Gear Ratio (Sales Code
DMP) or 225MM Rear Axle (Sales Code DPR) with the 3.47 Gear Ratio (Sales
Code DMG) built before May 2, 2011 (MDH 0502XX).

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Owners may indicate that they have experienced one or more of the following symptoms:

1. Moaning or groaning noise while coasting and/or during a very light acceleration
around 5 to 8 mph (8 to 13 kph).

2. The SERV 4WD message appears and the vehicle shifts from 4WD to 2WD.

3. Binding of the front driveline while turning on steep grades at speeds around 3 to 5
mph (5 to 8 kph).

4. Surge/Shudder at speeds greater than 50 mph (80 kph).
 
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