What programmer to get?
#11
12-15-2012 | 12:01 PM
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BOTH tuners have the option to disable MDS.
Diablo has some trans tuning built in. Partial upshifts, BUT it lacks Partial downshifts which is the biggest benefit of the transmission tuning. You would need to have a custom tune to alter the Partial downshifts which makes it a limited feature.
There's lots of other features not discussed such as 0-60, 1/8th ETAs, datalogging..etc
You can pull Chrysler specific DTC codes that a standard handheld cannot.
Lots of good stuff with these tuners. WELL worth the expense if your into that sorta stuff.
Theres nothing wrong with a SC tuner. It's the user not knowing how and what to adjust that is the problem. Provide a handheld that can do everything and people will start blowing things up. It's just what happens. Everyone thinks they know what they are doing.
Superchips trans tune has safety features to prevent any cross patterns in shifting.
I think the problem your referring to was when they FIRST came out, there was hard clunk on 2nd and 3rd downshifts which had nothing to do with the advanced trans tuning. That was with their standard programmed tune. That was right after Beta testing finished. That's been corrected and is old news.
Diablo doesn't offer partial downshifts via handheld, so to me, it has less user function. Stock engine crowd need not to worry about fuel trim and timing as that should be for engine modification and knowing what your doing anyways, so the Diablo does not have more useful features to average tuner crowd than SC. The otherway around. I've had both.
When you need customized tuning. Diablo is the only way.
Diablo has some trans tuning built in. Partial upshifts, BUT it lacks Partial downshifts which is the biggest benefit of the transmission tuning. You would need to have a custom tune to alter the Partial downshifts which makes it a limited feature.
There's lots of other features not discussed such as 0-60, 1/8th ETAs, datalogging..etc
You can pull Chrysler specific DTC codes that a standard handheld cannot.
Lots of good stuff with these tuners. WELL worth the expense if your into that sorta stuff.
Theres nothing wrong with a SC tuner. It's the user not knowing how and what to adjust that is the problem. Provide a handheld that can do everything and people will start blowing things up. It's just what happens. Everyone thinks they know what they are doing.
Superchips trans tune has safety features to prevent any cross patterns in shifting.
I think the problem your referring to was when they FIRST came out, there was hard clunk on 2nd and 3rd downshifts which had nothing to do with the advanced trans tuning. That was with their standard programmed tune. That was right after Beta testing finished. That's been corrected and is old news.
Diablo doesn't offer partial downshifts via handheld, so to me, it has less user function. Stock engine crowd need not to worry about fuel trim and timing as that should be for engine modification and knowing what your doing anyways, so the Diablo does not have more useful features to average tuner crowd than SC. The otherway around. I've had both.
When you need customized tuning. Diablo is the only way.
#14
12-16-2012 | 04:15 PM
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The 97 ram was my last truck, I have a 08 ram now, I just don't know how to change that in my profile.
#16
12-16-2012 | 05:17 PM
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I think it's $40
#17
12-16-2012 | 08:55 PM
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Edit thru there.
Well Since you have an 08. Its pretty easy for me to say Superchips, I have a 08 hemi. And I also have an android Cellphone for i purchased the VIVID. Way better then the old handheld tuner products. Can leave it on while driving to view stats, and other neat info. Look at it on there website.
I left MDS and i just run the 87 tune. The flex-a-lite 193 Efan, and the SC vivid was the best things ive done to my truck.
#19
12-20-2012 | 10:47 PM
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HemiFever is who I was going to recommend you seek for writing tunes; he's got a good rep. If/when I buy a Diablo, he's who'll be writing mine.
@ mber55, any of these mentioned above should be fine. It really depends upon how much tuning/adjustment you want to have.
