Stupid question, and I know its to late now cause they are going on regardless, but these are illegal eventhough you are still running throuth the cats correct?

 

Here in PA they are illegal. If you can get a copy of your states motor vehicle laws it should tell you of they are illegal there.

 

hmm guess they are....

28-955. Mufflers; noise and air pollution prevention; emissions control devices; civil penalty; exception
A. A motor vehicle shall be equipped at all times with a muffler that is in good working order and that is in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise.
B. A person shall not use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway.
C. The engine and power mechanism of a motor vehicle shall be equipped and adjusted to prevent the escape of excessive fumes or smoke.
D. Beginning with motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines of the 1968 model year, motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines shall be equipped with emissions control devices that meet the standards established by the director of environmental quality.
E. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least one hundred dollars.
F. This section does not apply to an electrically powered motor vehicle.

28-955.04. Exhaust system; visual inspection; requirements; civil penalty
A. A commercial motor vehicle that operates in this state shall have an exhaust system that is detectable by a visual inspection and that meets all of the following:
1. Is free from a defect that adversely affects sound reduction.
2. Is equipped with either a muffler or other noise dissipative device.
3. Is not equipped with a cutout, bypass or similar device.
B. A person who violates this section is subject to a civil penalty of at least five hundred dollars. If the person shows the court that a muffler has been installed or the existing muffler has been serviced to comply with subsection A, the court may reduce or waive the civil penalty.

 

however it looks like that second part does not pertain to me:


Exempted Vehicles for emission testing

• Model year 2005 or newer, except reconstructed, vehicles
• Model year 2007 or newer original equipment alternative fuel vehicles
• Model year 1966 and older vehicles
• Vehicles designated as "collectible" (requires collectible vehicle insurance, reported to Arizona Motor Vehicle Division by insurer)
• Electric powered, golf carts or vehicles with engine displacement of less than 90cc
• Motorcycles registered in the Tucson metropolitan area
• Apportioned vehicles (licensed in more than one state)
• Vehicles leased to a person residing outside the emission control areas
• Vehicles transferred between dealers (wholesale)

 

i live in pa, and didnt know this...... and costed 275 for the cutout and 300 to install, if i have to take it off come next inspection im not going to be a happy camper!!

you think if i have it closed they will notice :/

 

Im still a little unclear on the law though cause the first one says a person shall not use a muffler cutout, bypass or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway, doesnt say anything about anywhere else like surface streets. And the other one talks about "comercial vehicles".

 

They will notice if they follow the inspection protocall. You should try to find a place that will pass you no matter what. I know of a couple places around me who pass you as long as there is nothing unsafe on the vehicle.

 

i live in cranberry/wexford area i have too pass emmisions and inspection :/

 

Emissions you are fine as long as the cutout is after the cats. It is the visual inspection that they will get you on bc PA law says no cutouts. If you were closer to me I could recommend a shop to take your truck to for inspection.

 

so your laws specifically say no cutouts period? The way the ones for az make it sound I can have them on just not open on the highways.