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03 TMR delete mod.
Just finally did this today.
All I can say is YEEEHAAAAAA!!! Wish I'd done it sooner. Definately a push back into the seat on the WOT 1/2 shifts. Al. |
Been reading for years about how great it is. Damn lucky '03 owners!!!:eek:
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I don't think I have ever heard anyone complain about this mod. I can only imagine what it feels like to drive the truck after doing it.
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damn free mod does what I want my $300 SC to do (and can't). u have to rub it in abarmby?
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Shhhh. Thats supposed to be our little secret. If you let this get out you will have the 04+ guys jumpin off of bridges
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Originally Posted by xfeejayx
(Post 1683325)
damn free mod does what I want my $300 SC to do (and can't). u have to rub it in abarmby?
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Originally Posted by xfeejayx
(Post 1683325)
damn free mod does what I want my $300 SC to do (and can't). u have to rub it in abarmby?
But seriously, it does make a big difference on the 1/2 shift. However, all you 04 and above guys, have better tuning alternatives than us 03's sigh..... Al. |
what mod is this? i've never heard of it. :confused:
and i have an '03, so i want to do it if it's free :D |
OK,OK I will tell you the secret. (its not really a secret though). Dodge trucks up to 03 can do this including Dakota,Durango and Ram with 4.7,5.9 and 5.7
Here is a pic for the 03 Hemi: http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...dto1123new.jpg Take off the 1B cover and you will see the Yellow and green wire going into the plug. With a small scket set lossen the bolt in the center and pull the plug away from the Computer. Locate the correct side where the Yellow and green stripe wire is and then Pry the RED retainer out and using a ***elers flathead screwdriver and push the wire out the backshell and pull the wire completely out. position the wire out of the way and reinstall the red retainer and plug... |
Bwa ha ha - the board censors j e w l e r because of its first 3 letters!
Anyway, I never did this on my 03, having bought a SC tuner instead. Would I gain even more by totally doing away with TM? |
Ok i aint tryin to be stupid or nothin but um... what exactly does this mod do?
like what does the yellow and green wire control in the computer? |
Originally Posted by FireRescue J-16
(Post 1683567)
Ok i aint tryin to be stupid or nothin but um... what exactly does this mod do?
like what does the yellow and green wire control in the computer? also, where the heck am i supposed to look in the engine bay for this? looks like the fuse box? |
Our dodges have a Torque Management system, the PCM dials back the engines's power/torque between shifts to reduce wear and tear on the tranny. I believe I read the wire is for the PCM and TCM to communicate, so removing the wire the call between the two for torque management and thus eliminates the Torque Managament and sends all the power/torque to your drivetrain all the time.
I guess the downside is more possible wear and tear on the tranny. That being said, if I had a '03 I would try it. Actually my brother wants me to do the mod to his Durago the next time I visit him. |
I wish I had an 03 so I could do that. but how much more wear and tear would it put on the tranny?
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
(Post 1683345)
Actually, it does MORE than your $300 SC does when it comes to TM. The mod completely gets rid of it!!!
and to answer the question of wear and tear, it does as much damage as you want it to. If you don't abuse your truck, it'll be fine. if you pound on it all day every day, i'm sure you could blow the trans in a month. plenty of people have done this without any increase in noticeable wear on the trans. I have reduced TM because of the flashpaq, and I wouldn't beat on the truck all day. |
Originally Posted by jonnymagnum
(Post 1683628)
I wish I had an 03 so I could do that. but how much more wear and tear would it put on the tranny?
Asking this ? is the same as asking how long your truck will last???? Depends on how you drive, maintenance, towing...etc... I would imagine it is like driving an older vehicle when there was no Tq management. Those tranny's lasted 100kmi and most owners never did flushes back then nor did sooner intervals like is required or "suggested" rather for todays vehicles. With the exception of Ford. For some reason they think you can go 100kmi without ever changing any fluids except the engine oil. pffft. yeah right. Imagine running your original rear differential fluid for 100kmi?????? NOT! |
Originally Posted by Cheeech
(Post 1683679)
Asking this ? is the same as asking how long your truck will last????
Depends on how you drive, maintenance, towing...etc... I would imagine it is like driving an older vehicle when there was no Tq management. Those tranny's lasted 100kmi and most owners never did flus.... |
Originally Posted by Ramdamit98
(Post 1683604)
eliminates the Torque Managament and thus sending all the power/torque to your drivetrain all the time.
anyone know where i can get a new tranny cheap? i'll be blowing this one before too long i suspect :D |
Originally Posted by xfeejayx
(Post 1683703)
those engines didn't have 375 ft.lbs of torque either...
There are lots of stock vehicles out there these days with superchargers on them. Their trans. hold up very well. Way more tq. than 375. |
I'm curious on how your truck reacted when you started it up after pulling the wire? I did it 2 months ago. scared the crap outta myself when it didn't start. mechanical stuff is fixable. computer problems!? I'm screwed! so I installed it back. finally got my truck running again. but was wondering if that's common after the removal of it?
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sounds like you may have taken out the wrong wire.
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hmm lol k guess ill have to try it again
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ok there's 2 yellow with green stripe...the one with a light green stripe or dark green? I have one by the number 10 on the plug and the other is by the 20
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Originally Posted by mbaseball3
(Post 1683841)
ok there's 2 yellow with green stripe...the one with a light green stripe or dark green? I have one by the number 10 on the plug and the other is by the 20
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...led20wire1.jpg You must have pulled the incorrect wire the first time. I didn't have ANY problems at start up. I also did a full "cold reset" of the PCM after this, so the computer had to relearn stuff. I drove the snot out of it and the shifts are awesome! As for wear and tear, I look at it this way. If the transmission slowly slides it's way into gear like our stock transmissions do, that must cause more heat build up in the transmission. Plus the bands must get more wear due to the increased slipping and wearing away of the bands. Otherwise how do transmission kits sell themselves? All these kit manufacturers say slow soft shifts wear the transmissions and that heat is THE #1 killer of transmissions. Just my 2cents. For an earlier poster the module in question, is behind the air box on a Hemi on the passenger side inner wing/fender. Al. |
Is there any possible way something like this could be done on a 05 4.7?
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Originally Posted by abarmby
(Post 1683871)
Use the no#10 wire mbaseball3. It's the yellow wire closest to the screw boss that tightens the plug to the module.
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...led20wire1.jpg You must have pulled the incorrect wire the first time. I didn't have ANY problems at start up. I also did a full "cold reset" of the PCM after this, so the computer had to relearn stuff. I drove the snot out of it and the shifts are awesome! As for wear and tear, I look at it this way. If the transmission slowly slides it's way into gear like our stock transmissions do, that must cause more heat build up in the transmission. Plus the bands must get more wear due to the increased slipping and wearing away of the bands. Otherwise how do transmission kits sell themselves? All these kit manufacturers say slow soft shifts wear the transmissions and that heat is THE #1 killer of transmissions. Just my 2cents. For an earlier poster the module in question, is behind the air box on a Hemi on the passenger side inner wing/fender. Al. |
Originally Posted by abarmby
(Post 1683871)
Use the no#10 wire mbaseball3. It's the yellow wire closest to the screw boss that tightens the plug to the module.
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...led20wire1.jpg You must have pulled the incorrect wire the first time. I didn't have ANY problems at start up. I also did a full "cold reset" of the PCM after this, so the computer had to relearn stuff. I drove the snot out of it and the shifts are awesome! As for wear and tear, I look at it this way. If the transmission slowly slides it's way into gear like our stock transmissions do, that must cause more heat build up in the transmission. Plus the bands must get more wear due to the increased slipping and wearing away of the bands. Otherwise how do transmission kits sell themselves? All these kit manufacturers say slow soft shifts wear the transmissions and that heat is THE #1 killer of transmissions. Just my 2cents. For an earlier poster the module in question, is behind the air box on a Hemi on the passenger side inner wing/fender. Al. ya know someone didnt do something right on my wiring. i did buy my 03 in 04 from a private seller. truck was reconditioned from 'salvaged' status. the wrong wire i pulled the first time was actually the right wire you told me and what i read awhile back when i did it. i pulled the other yellow w/ green stripe wire by the 20 mark today and start up was fine. test drive proves it was that wire. "mechanics" these days |
thanks abarmby!!!!!
Iv been wanting to do some mods on my truck since i got it but money was to tight. I sure could afford FREE!!! |
Originally Posted by FireRescue J-16
(Post 1683897)
Is there any possible way something like this could be done on a 05 4.7?
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Well dang so much for that idea...
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Originally Posted by Sloooow
(Post 1684016)
thanks abarmby!!!!!
Iv been wanting to do some mods on my truck since i got it but money was to tight. I sure could afford FREE!!! Remember, make sure your in O/D off to make sure that when your WOT you don't hit 2nd prime. Al. |
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Did this mod to mine shortly after getting the truck in 2007. I have quite a few miles towing and snow plowing and have had no ill effects. The removal of this wire definitely woke the truck up as far as how fast it shifts into 2nd.
Location of TCM... Attachment 105935 Attachment 105936 Remove center bolt and pull plug out. Attachment 105937 Remove the red pin holder. Attachment 105938 Pull wire from pin #10 and tape off the end. Put it all back together and test drive! :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/DCP_7162.jpg |
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[quote=Lifted4x4Astro;1684404]Did this mod to mine shortly after getting the truck in 2007. I have quite a few miles towing and snow plowing and have had no ill effects. The removal of this wire definitely woke the truck up as far as how fast it shifts into 2nd.
Location of TCM... Remove the red pin holder. Attachment 105934 Pull wire from pin #10 and tape off the end. Put it all back together and test drive! :D how can you tell which pin it is? are there numbers on the plastic piece or are you counting down it? |
Every time I read about this mod I wish I could do it on my truck. Free mods that have results like this are great. You guys are lucky.
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Originally Posted by Lifted4x4Astro
(Post 1684404)
Did this mod to mine shortly after getting the truck in 2007. I have quite a few miles towing and snow plowing and have had no ill effects. The removal of this wire definitely woke the truck up as far as how fast it shifts into 2nd.
Location of TCM... Remove the red pin holder. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/DCP_7161.jpg Pull wire from pin #10 and tape off the end. Put it all back together and test drive! :D how can you tell which pin it is? are there numbers on the plastic piece or are you counting down it? There are several Yellow wires near that location, but it's that one mentioned above you want. That's the one to pull. Attachment 105933 I couldn't see any numbers on my plug. But hey.......I'm 51 and didn't have my "eagle eye" specs on LOL. Al. |
Originally Posted by 1684571
how can you tell which pin it is? are there numbers on the plastic piece or are you counting down it?
If you look at the side the wires are going into the plug you will see the numbers. Iv only drove 5 or so miles since I did this but I can feel it shift much faster now. I recommend this to anyone that has a 03 and if by some crazy reason you don't like this mod it would only take a couple minute to put the wire back in the harness. |
But again -- does pulling the wire make a difference if you're already running a Superchips programmer?
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Originally Posted by John M
(Post 1684615)
But again -- does pulling the wire make a difference if you're already running a Superchips programmer?
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this works for 2002 5.9L correct? if so im going to do this tonight.
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pull it...
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