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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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I need help desperately. I recently had the TIPM replaced in my truck. It was replaced with a used one from the scrape yard. Pretty long story but I will try to paraphrase. When I got the truck back the first thing I noticed when I unlocked the doors using the keyless entry that the hazard lights no longer flashed. I then got in and the check engine light was on and it said check gas cap. I went back into the garage and the guy told me that it was a code issue. He said it wasn't a big deal that I could probably live without the features. When I told him about the gas cap light he said it was probably a dirty sensor affected by the dirtroads. About a week later I come to an intersection to slow down and my oil pressure drops and check engine gauges comes on and the truck stalls out. I put it in neutral and she starts right back up. The next day I am driving down the road and the power locks keep turning on and off and again the oil pressure starts dropping again. I call the garage, he basically blows it off, saying just wait and see if it stops. The very next day the truck completely dies on my wife. She tows it to the garage because it won't even turn over. The garage starts it up when it gets there and it starts making a weird noise, almost like plastic hitting each other. The garage calls me back says its the motor, needs to be replaced. I said what's wrong with it. He says it's starved for oil. I say to him its full of oil, he agrees but says it's not getting the feed.

I go online and do research and find others who had the same thing with oil pressure and stalling out and it was told to them it was likely their TIPM. Coincidence on my part? Anyway I tell the garage my findings and he says that it is not programmable, yet I call two different dealerships and they say that it needs to be flashed.

So my first question is does it in fact need to be flashed?
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Does the TIPM have anything at all to do with the oil pressure, either by itself or in conjunction with the PCM?

Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. I am getting the feeling that this guy is trying to take me to the cleaners.

Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rhiley_08j
I need help desperately. I recently had the TIPM replaced in my truck. It was replaced with a used one from the scrape yard. Pretty long story but I will try to paraphrase. When I got the truck back the first thing I noticed when I unlocked the doors using the keyless entry that the hazard lights no longer flashed. I then got in and the check engine light was on and it said check gas cap. I went back into the garage and the guy told me that it was a code issue. He said it wasn't a big deal that I could probably live without the features. When I told him about the gas cap light he said it was probably a dirty sensor affected by the dirtroads. About a week later I come to an intersection to slow down and my oil pressure drops and check engine gauges comes on and the truck stalls out. I put it in neutral and she starts right back up. The next day I am driving down the road and the power locks keep turning on and off and again the oil pressure starts dropping again. I call the garage, he basically blows it off, saying just wait and see if it stops. The very next day the truck completely dies on my wife. She tows it to the garage because it won't even turn over. The garage starts it up when it gets there and it starts making a weird noise, almost like plastic hitting each other. The garage calls me back says its the motor, needs to be replaced. I said what's wrong with it. He says it's starved for oil. I say to him its full of oil, he agrees but says it's not getting the feed.

I go online and do research and find others who had the same thing with oil pressure and stalling out and it was told to them it was likely their TIPM. Coincidence on my part? Anyway I tell the garage my findings and he says that it is not programmable, yet I call two different dealerships and they say that it needs to be flashed.

So my first question is does it in fact need to be flashed?
and
Does the TIPM have anything at all to do with the oil pressure, either by itself or in conjunction with the PCM?

Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. I am getting the feeling that this guy is trying to take me to the cleaners.

Thanks.
Rhiley,

When replacing a TIPM the TIPM has to be Configured.

The vehicle will need to be at the dealer so that they can perform a Vehicle Configuration.

The configuration process will require information from other modules on the vehicle to “talk to” the TIPM. The TIPM will “learn” information from those modules, and those modules will “learn” from the TIPM as well.

The dealer is provided a “flash” from Chrysler as well that contains specific discriminatory information that is VIN specific
 
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Agreed, you can't just put a TIPM module out of a junker into your truck without a dealer flashing it. All kinds of issues will arise and yes, it could ultimately lead to an electric component issue that could cause an engine failure.

If you put this part in on your own, it was a big mistake. If your "mechanic" did this and he's right that you now need an engine - then this idiot needs to get you one on his dime - but I wouldn't let him install it, since it sounds like he doesn't know his **** from a hole in the ground...
 
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 01:11 AM
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This is why I do most major things at a stealership, unless you know your mechanic very well and are certain he will back his work. Computer-y stuff in newer vehicles I leave to the stealership, most mechanical things I take to a friend.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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2006 also had Direction issue's from inadequate programming for towing. It would cause the directionals/hazards to stop working. This requires an update/re-configure from the dealer.

These TIPMs are too sensitive to take a chance on a Junkyard part. Your not really saving much either. They cost ~$600 new and $100 or so to configure. I'd imagine you paid a few hundred for yours used which comes with no warranty to pay the dealer for their time if it ends up being a dud. No thanks.
The TIPMs are configured as stated to your Vin. So, if you have foglights and the previous truck didn't, you lose on foglights because they aren't activated.
Also, 4.7L vs 5.7L vs diesel are all different.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Ok so here's the deal... took it to a dealership they said the engine is toast. (ROD). They said that the TIPM would only control the oil pressure gauge nothing mechanical. Somehow I don't believe this. My truck was fine before he replaced the TIPM. However, if that's the case then what would have caused the engine to blow a rod. Wouldn't that have to be an issue with timing? Would the TIPM not being flashed somehow of caused the timing to be thrown?
 

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