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beech2000 09-12-2014 07:24 AM

Do I need to worry?
 
During an oil change visit the Napa auto care manager commented that he was not used to seeing 2003 HEMI trucks with 260,000 miles and asked if it was the original engine. Response of course was yes and he said what happens is the early hemi's like to break valve springs. Do I need to worry? This work truck is all highway and spends 5 days a week toting me and my tools to airports. Anything I can do to make sure I'm not a victim?

HammerZ71 09-12-2014 08:31 AM

Common problem in the '03 and early '04 Hemi is weak valve springs. These were replaced fairly early in the '04 model year with stouter ones. A lot of people swap 'em out for the stronger ones as they are not expensive.


A broken valve spring doesn't always do in the engine, although it could depending on how fast you're going and how fast you can shut it down.


If these are the original springs at 260,000 miles, I honestly wouldn't worry about it unless you want to make a weekend over-haul project out of it. I mean at a quarter million miles it a basic over-haul wouldn't be a bad idea anyway...

jkeaton 09-12-2014 08:34 AM

x2 ^^^

HemiLonestar 09-12-2014 10:46 AM

I'm at 140,000+ on my originals, you are damn near twice that. As stated, at that mileage some replacements wouldn't be a bad idea even for newer springs.

p38251 09-12-2014 11:29 AM

If it ain't broke. Leave it alone. Keep doing what your doing, it's obviously working.

TNtech 09-12-2014 12:08 PM

We see many with high mileage.


The biggest mistake people make with the Hemi valve springs is not recognizing what it is, throwing parts at it, at the same time running the crap out of it while totally unaware they're doing more damage.

beech2000 09-12-2014 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by HammerZ71 (Post 3195099)
Common problem in the '03 and early '04 Hemi is weak valve springs. These were replaced fairly early in the '04 model year with stouter ones. A lot of people swap 'em out for the stronger ones as they are not expensive.


A broken valve spring doesn't always do in the engine, although it could depending on how fast you're going and how fast you can shut it down.


If these are the original springs at 260,000 miles, I honestly wouldn't worry about it unless you want to make a weekend over-haul project out of it. I mean at a quarter million miles it a basic over-haul wouldn't be a bad idea anyway...

Can they be changed without pulling the heads off? I have the perfect candidate for performing the job.

beech2000 09-12-2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by p38251 (Post 3195142)
If it ain't broke. Leave it alone. Keep doing what your doing, it's obviously working.

I guess I am worried. A new vehicle is in order but funds are being absorbed by kids schools.
Wonder what replacement engines run

Prismatic 09-12-2014 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by beech2000 (Post 3195190)
Can they be changed without pulling the heads off? I have the perfect candidate for performing the job.

Of course. Just need some shop air, a compression gauge hose minus the schrader valve, and a valve spring compressor.

MikeHTally 09-12-2014 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by beech2000 (Post 3195190)
Can they be changed without pulling the heads off? I have the perfect candidate for performing the job.

Absotively. Mine broke the #6 exhaust spring @ 122K. It broke while the engine was idling, so no damage, fortunately. I did the valve stem seals and push rods while I had it apart. Not the easiest job, but not the nightmare I had feared.


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