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Key out of ignition, door open, radio still on and door dinging
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Key out of ignition, door open, radio still on and door dinging
I just bought a 2006 2500 Diesel. When you take the key out of the ignition, after turning the truck off, the door dings when opened and the radio stays on, when its hot. When it cools off, the air temperature, it quits. The previous owner had a new switch installed. It acts as thought there are two accessory positions, the position when turned toward the driver from the off position. I appreciate the help!
I just bought a 2006 2500 Diesel. When you take the key out of the ignition, after turning the truck off, the door dings when opened and the radio stays on, when its hot. When it cools off, the air temperature, it quits. The previous owner had a new switch installed. It acts as thought there are two accessory positions, the position when turned toward the driver from the off position. I appreciate the help!
Lol, my '05 Ram 5.7 started doing this very thing last week when cold (55°F). I can actually make it stop by smacking the lower dash panel below the steering column. No, not kidding. I have it on video.
No codes, messing with the key has no effect, and it does drain the battery.
It’s the ignition switch. Who ever put it in didn’t do it right. It’s a PITA. Same thing happened to me. I put an new one in and all that happened like you are describing. Took it back sort and got a new one. Been fine eve since. The trick is that you have to do it and not spin the inside part of the new switch at all. If you do the switch will actually think there is 2 on positions for some reason. Hope this helps you in the right direction
My 2007 does the exact same thing, except it only does it when it's hot outside. Cold? No problem. When it's hot, sometimes I have to turn the key off and on several times for the radio to go off. It's rather annoying. And since I live in Texas, it's hot most of the time. I thought about replacing the ignition switch, but it sounds like that might not solve the problem. I've lived with it for several years now, I guess I can keep going.
My 2007 does the exact same thing, except it only does it when it's hot outside. Cold? No problem. When it's hot, sometimes I have to turn the key off and on several times for the radio to go off. It's rather annoying. And since I live in Texas, it's hot most of the time. I thought about replacing the ignition switch, but it sounds like that might not solve the problem. I've lived with it for several years now, I guess I can keep going.
I have a 2007 Chrysler Aspen and it too is doing the same thing when HOT outside, USED to only do it around 100 deg outside, now doing it at 80-90 Deg outside, DID YOU FIND A FIX??
PROBLEM: My 2007 Chrysler Aspen would NOT turn off, (Engine did Stop) but even after the key was removed, (only when it's HOT outside 100 deg plus), Odometor & Gear Shift Letters would still be ON, sometimes.
When I opened any door (Key out) it would say DOOR OPEN and
some of the Odometer & Gear Shift letters sayed ON.
[[i]ONLY WHEN HOT IN CAR, 100+ DEG,(sometimes)]
If I did nothing, I would wake up with a DEAD Battery, so I had disonnect the Battery untill it cooled off.
Now it's starting to act up as low as 85 Deg, (sometimes) this is not doable anymore!
It's so hard to troubleshoot when it acts up (sometimes) and usually only when it's too HOT to work on, 100 Deg Plus out.
I have no clue on were to start troubleshooting it.
So I pulled Fault codes and got: (Simplified version)
1. Rev Lamp Control High
2. Passenger Mirror Heater OPEN.
3. Adj Pedal sensor Low, ( Drv Seat PADDLE to Adj Ft.Bk movement)
4. Battery Low, (From the Past.)
5. Amplifier Internal ? Ok, now I'm really confused on where to even start looking and look for what?
So, two days of vigorous searching on the Internet
Finally, a 2007 Dodge RAMTRUCK owner in Texas had the same problem, Wo Ho!
He replaced the IGNITION SWITCH and it fixed his problem.
I sure would have not thought that from the CODES or the HEAT!
So, what the hell, $50 bucks, 10 minutes to remove and 10 minutes to install!
[Until I did my research, I thought Ignition Switch / Programming Keys / Tumbler / Steering wheel Lock was going to be OVER MY HEAD! Turned out to be quite simple.]
Wa-La, it worked. I have never thought of that? It only took me 5 years to figure it out, but now it's FIXED! And $0 dollars to the Dealership!
------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way, NO new keys or programming required.
Key tumbler is a separate mechanical device and Key code reader is also a separate device. It was as simple as removing & replacing the Ignition switch. Most Youtube Videos make it look harder than it really is.
Biggest take away is GET A #20 TORX SCREWDRIVER, not hex adaptors and such, you NEED a thin, 4" TORX screwdriveror don't even start.
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So, I took the OLD switch apart, SHOCKER!
It's nothing more than a bunch of Variable Resistors, (Rheostats/Potentiometers)
If it costed, HUNDREDS, it might be worth just cleaning and trying it again.
UPDATE: After taking Ignition Sw apart more; I feel it was the long shaft part, that was the problem, see Below.
There is a long PIN that come out from the Key Tumbler device, (Simulated below), that slides UNDER the switch and pushes the contacts up to make a connection.
It slides in and out and ACTIVATES a SWITCH in the long shaft area.
I can't prove it, but it sure lookes like the METAL was Exanding (bending) and Contracting with HEAT (of Cold). Unless it's a COLD solder joint on the Wiper side, I'll bet it METAL EXPANTION.
But, just $50 bucks for a RELIABLE FIX, it's worth replacing.
Spoiler
If you look at the TOP SOLID BAR [BELOW] in the switch, when its HOT, it bends down to MAKES / KEEPS contact with the bottow terminals, thus, the car thinks the KEY is still in the Igniton,.