2005 hemi stalling ***UPDATED***
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2005 hemi stalling ***UPDATED***
when kind of cruising at a slow speed, not much acceleration the truck will be all jerky and have very erractic rpms, then as soon as you let off the gas the rpm will drop right down to like zero then back up then it will stall. Does anyone know what this could be?? My warranty is up so i really dont want to take it to the stealership, would rather fix it myself if its something easy....
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RE: 2005 hemi stalling
A tsb is a Technical Service Bulletin. and every car manufacture has them. it is a bulletin posted by the manufature to the dealerships saying if this goes wrong then this is the most likely cause. below is an example of a tsb from the dealership i work at *note* i work for a mitsubishi dealership...................
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FILE UNDER:
Group 13 Fuel in the Dealer Service Information Binder (3009
)
SUBJECT:
FREEZE FRAME DATA FOR MISFIRE CONDITIONS
No:
TSB−06−22[/size][/font]23−005
FREEZE
−
DATE: April, 2006
MODEL:
See below
CIRCULATE TO
: [ ] GENERAL MANAGER [ ] PARTS MANAGER [X] TECHNICIAN
[
X] SERVICE ADVISOR [X] SERVICE MANAGER [X] WARRANTY PROCESSOR [ ] SALES MANAGER
PURPOSE
On affected vehicles, some freeze frame data items may be unavailable to diagnose Diagnostic
Trouble Codes for misfire conditions (DTC P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0305, or P0306).
If this freeze
−frame data is unavailable, reprogramming the PCM as described in this bulletin will
enable all freeze frame data to be read by the MUT
−III, to ensure proper diagnosis and repair.
AFFECTED VEHICLES
All 2005
−2006 models except Raider
PROCEDURE
BATTERY VOLTAGE (AS MEASURED AT THE BATTERY POSTS WITHOUT ELECTRICAL LOAD)
MUST BE 12.4V OR HIGHER IN ORDER TO REPROGRAM THE PCM.
Verify whether the vehicle is K
−Line Flash or CAN−Flash. Refer to the .Reprogramming
System Identification. chart on the Service Tech Resources page on the Mitsubishi Dealer
Link.
The procedure for PCM reprogramming on CAN−Flash vehicles is different than K−Line Flash
vehicles. Be sure to follow the correct reprogramming instructions for the vehicle being repaired.
IMPORTANT
1. If a misfire DTC is set in the PCM:
a. If the cause of the misfire DTC is easily identified, perform repairs as necessary. Then go
to Step 2 to reprogram the PCM to enable all freeze frame data.
b. If the cause of the misfire DTC is
not easily identified, go to Step 2 to reprogram the PCM
to enable all freeze frame data. Then test drive the vehicle to duplicate the customer.s concern
(misfire DTC will reset), and use the freeze frame data to diagnose the DTC.
2. Check the underside of the hood to verify that there is no label previously installed to indicate that
this TSB reprogramming has already been done.
3. Using the MUT
−III, verify that the vehicle.s ECU part number is listed in the table in Step 8. If the
Software P/N is the same as or higher than the Software P/N in the table, the PCM has already
been reprogrammed for this concern. Do not continue with this bulletin procedure.
4. Use the MUT
−III to erase all DTCs set in the PCM.
5. Verify that your MUT
−III is at STV Version 13.1 or higher, and that it has the most current version
of the reprogramming database:
a. Select .Special Function., then select .ECU Reprogramming..
CAUTION
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TSB
−06−134[/size][/font]135−005
b. Select .Database File Display.. The database version is displayed in the top right corner of the
screen. Make sure the database version is
N06031 or greater.
c. If the database version is N06031 or greater, reprogram the PCM as described in
Step 6 (for CAN
− Flash vehicles) or Step 7 (for K−Line Flash vehicles).
d. If the database version is less than N06031, you must transfer the new reprogramming data
from the Reflash Update CD 4/06 to the MUT
−III hard drive as follows:
(1) Install
Reflash Update CD 4/06 into the PC.s
DVD
−ROM drive.
(2) Follow the instructions on the screen. The system
will automatically transfer the reprogramming data
onto the PC.s hard drive.
6.
CAN−FLASH VEHICLES ONLY:
IMPORTANT:
DO NOT DISCONNECT THE MUT−III LAPTOP. DO NOT USE VCI STANDALONE
REPROGRAMMING.
The following equipment is required for PCM reprogramming on CAN
−Flash vehicles:
MUT−III PC
Reprogramming Database on DVD−ROM (Reflash Update CD 4/06 or later for this concern)
VCI (Vehicle Communication Interface) − MB991824
MUT−III main harness A (blue) − MB991910
USB 2.0 cable − MB991827
.Engine Compartment/Control Module. labels − p/n MSSF−024G−00
Connect this equipment in the same manner as for normal vehicle diagnosis. When reprogramming
a CAN
−Flash vehicle, the VCI and MUT−III laptop must be connected. DO NOT use VCI
Standalone on CAN
−Flash vehicles.
a. In the MUT
−III System Select menu, click on the car symbol at the bottom of the screen.
Select VIN. Then type in the VIN.
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TSB
−06−276[/size][/font]277−005
b. Connect the VCI to the vehicle.
DO NOT DISCONNECT THE LAPTOP.
c. Select .Special Function..
d. Select .ECU reprogramming..
e. Select .Automatic Reprogramming (CAN)..
f. Select Engine and Transmission, then click on the
check mark.
A message will advise you that the system will
.Automatic Search the data..
Click on the check mark to continue.
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TSB
−06−296[/size][/font]297−005
If the PCM is already reprogrammed for this concern,
this screen will display. If this message displays, do not
continue with this reprogramming procedure.
DO NOT DISTURB THE HARNESS CABLES OR
CONNECTIONS. INTERRUPTION DURING THE
PROGRAMMING PROCESS COULD CAUSE THE
PCM TO LOSE DATA OR PREVENT FUTURE PCM
REPROGRAMMING.
g. The CAN database screen will display.
(If more than one row is displayed in the table, select
the appropriate ECU part number.)
Click on the check mark to begin reprogramming.
NOTE: It will take up to 10 minutes to complete the
reprogramming.
h. This message will display when the reprogramming
is successfully completed.
Go to Step 8 to complete this bulletin procedure.
7.
K−LINE FLASH VEHICLES ONLY:
a. If you just transferred the new reprogramming data from the Reflash Update CD 4/06 to
the MUT
−III hard drive, now transfer the reprogramming data from the MUT−III laptop to
the memory card. (Use the port on the left side of the MUT
−III laptop.) Select ECU Reprogram-
ming
, then Memory Card Transfer. A status bar will display while the data is loading into
the memory card.
When the memory card data transfer is complete, remove the memory card from the laptop
and install it in the VCI.
CAUTION
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TSB
−06−346[/size][/font]347−005
b. Connect the following equipment in the same manner as for normal vehicle diagnosis:
MUT−III PC
Reprogramming Database on DVD−ROM (Reflash Update CD 4/06 or later for this concern)
VCI (Vehicle Communication Interface) − MB991824
MUT−III main harness B (red) − MB991911
Endeavor & 2005 Galant models only: MUT−III main harness A (blue) − MB991910
Outlander & Montero models only: 12−13 pin adapter MB991855
USB 2.0 cable − MB991827
UPDATE CD
MEMORY CARD
VCI MUT
−III MAIN HARNESS
MEMORY CARD ADAPTER
MUT
−III LAPTOP
ADAPTER MB991855
(MONTERO &
OUTLANDER ONLY)
c. Connect the VCI to the vehicle.
d. Disconnect the MUT
−III laptop.
e.
IMPORTANT!
Lancer, Outlander, and Evolution models equipped with ABS: With the ignition key OFF,
unplug the ABS fuse (7.5 amp fuse in the junction box in the passenger compartment).
Refer to the service manual for exact fuse location in the box.
f. Reprogram the PCM, using .
Automatic reprogramming. on the VCI. It will take up to 20
minutes to complete the reprogramming.
DO NOT DISTURB THE HARNESS CABLES OR CONNECTIONS. INTERRUPTION DURING THE
PROGRAMMING PROCESS COULD CAUSE THE PCM TO LOSE DATA OR PREVENT FUTURE
PCM REPROGRAMMING.
If the message .ECU at Current Level of VCI. appears, the PCM did not reprogram. Verify that
the ROM ID is the same as the ROM ID listed in the table in Step 7.
If the ROM ID is the same or higher than the ROM ID in the table, the PCM has already been
reprogrammed for this concern. Do not continue with this reprogramming procedure.
If it is not, verify that the correct database update is in the MUT−III. Verify the correct database
was transferred to the memory card, and that the memory card is properly installed in the
VCI.
CAUTION
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TSB
−06−476[/size][/font]477−005
8. After reprogramming, the new ECU part number and software part number will display. Verify that
they are the same as those listed below. Note this information.
DISPLAY ON MUT
−III
AFTER
REPROGRAMMING
MODEL ECU
P/N
MUT
−III
REFLASH
DATABASE
ECU
P/N
Software P/N
(ROM ID)
VENDOR #
2006 Eclipse 3.8L
A/T
1860A220 1862A557 1860A220 1860A220FC E6T45374H52
2006 Eclipse 3.8L
M/T
1860A219 1862A556 1860A219 1860A219FF E6T45373H5
2006 Eclipse
2.4L M/T
1860A217 1862A554 1860A217 1860A217CC E6T45273H2
2006 Eclipse 2.4L
A/T
1860A218 1862A553 1860A218 1860A218CC E6T45274H22
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 3.0L
VI A/T
MN180604 VN06027 MN180604 866209 E6T42874H20
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 3.0L A/T
MN180603 VN06026 MN180603 866110 E6T42873H30
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 3.0L
VI M/T
MN180602 VN06025 MN180602 966009 E6T35981H2
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 3.0L M/T
MN180601 VN06024 MN180601 965909 E6T35980H2
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 2.4L M/T
MN191006 VN06023 MN191006 970906 E6T35779H2
2005 Eclipse/Eclipse
Spyder 2.4L A/T
MN191008 VN06022 MN191008 870706 E6T35498H20
2005 Eclipse RS
2.4L A/T
MN191007 VN06021 MN191007 870606 E6T35497H20
2006 Galant 2.4L
Calif. Emis.
1860A316 1862A552 1860A316 1860A316CA E6T41683H20
2006 Galant 3.8L
Federal Emis.
1860A314 1862A555 1860A314 1860A314DA E6T40080H30
2006 Galant 2.4L
Federal Emis.
1860A315 1862A551 1860A315 1860A315CA E6T41682H20
2005 Galant 3.8L
Federal Emis.
1860A058 VN0602L 1860A058 365615 E6T40079H40
2005 Galant 2.4L
Federal Emis.
1860A056 VN0602J 1860A056 365723 E6T41678H60
2005 Galant 2.4L
Calif. Emis.
1860A057 VN0602I 1860A057 365823 E6T41679H60
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TSB
−06−510[/size][/font]511−005
DISPLAY ON MUT
−III
AFTER
REPROGRAMMING
MODEL ECU
P/N
MUT
−III
REFLASH
DATABASE
ECU
P/N
Software P/N
(ROM ID)
VENDOR #
2006 Endeavor 4WD 1860A294 VN0601C 1860A294 382008 E6T38182H20
2006 Endeavor 2WD 1860A293 VN0601B 1860A293 381908 E6T38181H20
2005 Endeavor 4WD 1860A060 VN0602N 1860A060 366919 E6T38180H50
2005 Endeavor 2WD 1860A059 VN0602M 1860A059 366819 E6T38179H50
2005 Lancer 2.0L MIVEC
M/T
1860A070 VN0602D 1860A070 C71320 E6T34891H3
2005 Lancer/
Lancer Sportback 2.0L
MIVEC A/T
1860A071 VN0602C 1860A071 E71218 E6T37978H20
2005 Lancer 2.4L M/T 1860A067 VN0602B 1860A067 966315 E6T34987H4
2005 Lancer 2.4L A/T
w/R14 tires
1860A069 VN0602A 1860A069 866515 E6T42774H40
2005 Lancer 2.4L A/T
w/R15 tires
1860A068 VN06029 1860A068 866415 E6T42773H40
2006 Lancer 2.4L MIVEC
M/T
1860A420 VN06016 1860A420 C82810 E6T34899H1
2006 Lancer/Lancer
Sportback 2.4L MIVEC
A/T
1860A421 VN06015 1860A421 E82911 E6T37979H10
2006 Lancer 2.0L M/T 1860A417 VN06014 1860A417 882513 E6T34989H2
2006 Lancer 2.0L A/T
w/R14 tires
1860A419 VN06013 1860A419 882713 E6T42778H20
2006 Lancer 2.0L A/T
w/R15 tires
1860A418 VN06012 1860A418 882613 E6T42777H20
2005 Lancer Evolution 1860A118 VN06028 1860A118 969313 E6T34893H2
2006 Lancer Evolution 1860A465 VN06011 1860A465 885915 E6T46972H2
2005 Montero 1860A014 VN0602K 1860A014 364818 E6T38392H30
2006 Montero 8631A201 VN05121 8631A201 392005 E6T38399H10
2005 Outlander M/T AWD 1860A149 VN0602H 1860A149 C71520 E6T38981H3
2005 Outlander M/T 2WD 1860A148 VN0602G 1860A148 C71420 E6T38980H3
2005 Outlander A/T AWD 1860A125 VN0602F 1860A125 E68615 E6T44485H20
2005 Outlander A/T 2WD 1860A151 VN0602E 1860A151 E68515 E6T44484H20
2006 Outlander M/T AWD 1860A473 VN0601A 1860A473 C84611 E6T38990H1
2006 Outlander M/T 2WD 1860A472 VN06019 1860A472 C84511 E6T38989H1
2006 Outlander A/T AWD 8631A118 VN06018 8631A118 E84810 E6T45579H10
2006 Outlander A/T 2WD 8631A117 VN06017 8631A117 E84710 E6T45578H10
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TSB
−06−534[/size][/font]535−005
9. Turn the ignition switch to OFF. Disconnect the MUT
−III from the vehicle. Wait at least 10 seconds,
then start the engine to verify proper operation.
10. Using a ball
−point pen, enter the appropriate PCM part number, vendor number, ROM ID, this
TSB number (TSB
−06−556[/size][/font]557−005), your dealer code, and the current date on the Engine
Compartment and Control Module Label (part no. MSSF
−024G−00).
11. Carefully remove all dirt and oil from a vacant area near the VECI label on the underside of the
hood, and affix the Engine Compartment label.
12. Affix the Control Module Label to the PCM.
13.
Lancer, Outlander, and Evolution models equipped with ABS: Reconnect the ABS fuse.
Confirm no DTCs are set.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
PCM Reprogramming for Freeze Frame Data
Nature Code:
99D Cause Code: 490
Labor Operation No.
13850113 Time Allowance: 0.3 hr.
Warranty Coverage:
8 years / 80,000 miles
Special Warranty Information:
Normal warranty procedures apply.
Mitsubishi Motors North America, Inc.
The information contained in this bulletin is subject to change. For the latest version of this document, go to the Mitsubishi
Dealer Link, MEDIC, or the Mitsubishi Service Information website
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RE: 2005 hemi stalling
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ALL THE TSB CONSISTS OF IT COULD BE EXPENSIVE JUST DEPENDS. JUST A REMINDER THAT THE TSB I POSTED IS FOR MITSUBISHI VEHICLES ONLY!!!!
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RE: 2005 hemi stalling
try resetting the pcm first and also might want to check into the filters on the tranny...i kno its weird but other guys said they would stall out and the dealership changed the filters on the tranny and problem solved. never had the problem so not a first hand thing but ive heard it more than once with the stalling! im guessin it has to do with the tranny pressure in their case