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Originally Posted by Powerubi Wacon
"The transmission behind the HEMI is already a six-speed."
It has first (1), second (2), second prime (3), third (4), fourth (5), and fifth (6).
This was stated by the Chrysler engineers, at last weeks Live Chat, regarding the 545RFE.
They mentioned that they are going to call it a six-speed transmission, in future literature?
They are NOT six speeds...please do your homework like a good little boy (just funning), he he! The prime gears are there for when your puter goes out...the diesel is the only ram with a six speed ....nuff said!
 
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Originally Posted by jayman84
What makes you say these motors are detuned? does dodge have our 5.7 hemi in another vehicle that is making more power?
They de throttle at shift points and at max rpm settings from Chrysler for added assurance to protect their warranty...that's what tuners are for...they hack the factory settings sort of speak. Not to mention...the shift pressure is set low for soft and comfortable shifts...not something high performance people like too see! So when ever you get close to WOT...as in racing, your engine de throttles all along the shift points and all the way up To WOT....it sux!
 
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If Ford put the EB in the Expedition EL I'd buy one.
 
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Originally Posted by 1954Radio
They are NOT six speeds...please do your homework like a good little boy (just funning), he he! The prime gears are there for when your puter goes out...the diesel is the only ram with a six speed ....nuff said!
I consider any transmission with 6 forward gears a '6 speed' no matter how the computer is programed.

BTW, push the Tow/Haul and you'll use 2nd and 2nd prime. Our trucks just don't need the small transition between 1.75 & 1.5 during "normal" driving.

I do agree that the ratios in the Ford 6 speed would be better for towing and everyday driving as they're spaced out more.
 
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Originally Posted by 1954Radio
They are NOT six speeds...please do your homework like a good little boy (just funning), he he! The prime gears are there for when your puter goes out...the diesel is the only ram with a six speed ....nuff said!
Not so fast there Radio. There are six USABLE forward speeds in the 545RFE tranny.


In order to take advantage of all six: Start off in tow/haul mode and it shifts as follows:

1
2
2p
3
4

Disengage tow/haul and it shifts to:

5
 

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Originally Posted by ran jr
I consider any transmission with 6 forward gears a '6 speed' no matter how the computer is programed.

BTW, push the Tow/Haul and you'll use 2nd and 2nd prime. Our trucks just don't need the small transition between 1.75 & 1.5 during "normal" driving.

I do agree that the ratios in the Ford 6 speed would be better for towing and everyday driving as they're spaced out more.
That's strange...I can't get mine to use both second gears unless I manually use the column shifter button even while in tow haul...what kind of truck do you have, lol? In other words...mine skips the second prime 150:1 unless I manually shift with the shift button even while in tow haul mode. Of course I have an all go and no show ST, lol...do the SLT and LT models shift differently...just asking?
 
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Originally Posted by 05Dakotaho
Not so fast there Radio. There are six USABLE forward speeds in the 545RFE tranny.


In order to take advantage of all six: Start off in tow/haul mode and it shifts as follows:

1
2
2p
3
4

Disengage tow/haul and it shifts to:

5
Second primary is not considered a gear by Chrysler or tranny specialist and not used in normal driving conditions...it's useless other than for heavy towing. If you use it to race...you will loose valuable acceleration time and run slower ET's. Like you...I at first thought the same thing and disputed this but lost with transmission specialist and conceded. As of today (not tomorrow, lol) he 68RFE is Chrysler's only six speed transmission and with no primary gears. You can do as I did and call Chrysler and tell them it is a six speed and why you think it is...or ask your fav tranny specialist to see for yourself, tks .
 
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Originally Posted by ran jr
I do agree that the ratios in the Ford 6 speed would be better for towing and everyday driving as they're spaced out more.
Geez guys, I didn't mean to open up an esoteric discussion over how many bon-a-fide gears the 545RFE tranny has or doesn't have. Ran Jr's comment echos my sentiments best. Dodge is selling these truck regardless of the transmission on the strength of the Hemi. Ford manages to stay competative and sell trucks inspite of their engines. What would happen if GM, Toyota or Nissan sat up and took notice?
 

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Originally Posted by ken99
Geez guys, I didn't mean to open up an esoteric discussion over how many bon-a-fide gears the 545RFE tranny has or doesn't have. Ran Jr's comment echos my sentiments best. Dodge is selling these truck regardless of the transmission on the strength of the Hemi. Ford manages to stay competative and sell trucks inspite of their engines. What would happen if GM, Toyota or Nissan sat up and took notice?
Hey no fair...ur taking all the fun away, lol! But seriously...no disrespect to you sir, but you're only fooling yourself if you think automakers don't follow in each others footsteps to keep up with the competition. That being said, you can believe that most all of them are presently already at their best, they just can't hang. At the same time, this is a Dodge Ram forum and "dedicated" Ram owners can express how we feel about our trucks ...right or wrong as long as we stay within the boundaries. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't like videos of the competition out performing our trucks or being rained on. Those of you who like and want to brag about the Ford so much should post that crap on their forum. (I'm just funnin here, lol!) Some people here may have changed over from Chevy or Ford and may still own some, I've owned them all but I am MOPAR all the way through thick and thin. There are lots of nice things about other trucks but so what...I am Ram, if I want to hear how good the Ford is I will go to their forum, but I won't post any videos of Ford kills there. (BTW..Happy Holidays...sincerely, lol!) I don't want to sound mean about it nor do I know if I am stepping out of bounds here, and I mean no disrespect to the forum or especially any members. But this whole eco boost crap is a poke in the face to me and I think it is wrong to post it here, but that's just my opinion and evidently not everyone's here. That being said, this is Ram turf and I am Ram...so lets rock, lol! You say they still manage to stay competitive and I agree, lol! Yes I agree...they still manage to sell trucks in spite of all the bad fix or repair daily publicity and poor design, based on what you guys say about their transmissions...that's nice!
 
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Originally Posted by 1954Radio
They are NOT six speeds...please do your homework like a good little boy (just funning), he he! The prime gears are there for when your puter goes out...the diesel is the only ram with a six speed ....nuff said!
BTW...if it'll make you feel any better, this little boy didn't fair so well on his homework either, he he! 2nd prime in not used in limp mode like I stated...2nd and 3'rd are, 2nd prime is used for downshifting and tow assistance only so I stand corrected. But like I stated earlier here, I can only use 2nd prime when I "manually" shift with the column shift button and even while in tow haul mode. Is there anyone here who says that their truck uses 2nd prime without having to manually shift while in tow haul mode? In other words, my truck does not use 2nd prime while in tow haul mode unless I manually do it using the shift button and I'm wondering if any of you can. Could it be because I have an ST and those of you with SLT's and LT's can because of the floor shifter? tks!
 

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