What type of gas do you use.?
Even though I use 89 I do agree with "old man". I have never experienced pinging with 87 octane in either of my hemis. I used 87 pretty well exclusively in the 03 (first gen hemi) with no obvious issues whatsoever...except that it drank gas like it was water!
There are some on DF however who would contend that even though you can't hear it, there may be pre-detonation happening when using 87 octane. I have even read on here that people have re-built these engines and supposedly the ones ran strictly on 87 octane had more signs of wear than those ran on 89. From my experience, I don't think you will have any trouble with 87 octane.
There are some on DF however who would contend that even though you can't hear it, there may be pre-detonation happening when using 87 octane. I have even read on here that people have re-built these engines and supposedly the ones ran strictly on 87 octane had more signs of wear than those ran on 89. From my experience, I don't think you will have any trouble with 87 octane.
Here I am a newby Canadian who is considering the purchase of a 2012 Ram 2500 Crew Cab 4WD with the 5.7 Hemi engine. From the posts above, it appears that 87 octane fuel will be OK. What kind of fuel efficiency could I expect with this engine running at highway speeds under no towing conditions? I realize the 2500 is heavier than most of your 1500 users, but I'd like just some estimates.
Here I am a newby Canadian who is considering the purchase of a 2012 Ram 2500 Crew Cab 4WD with the 5.7 Hemi engine. From the posts above, it appears that 87 octane fuel will be OK. What kind of fuel efficiency could I expect with this engine running at highway speeds under no towing conditions? I realize the 2500 is heavier than most of your 1500 users, but I'd like just some estimates.
Pretty sure that in Canada most provinces require for fuel to have an average of 5% ethanol. That means 10% in 87 Octane, 5% in 89 and 0% in premium. However, some gas stations have ethanol in all grades. Most pumps I see nowadays have fine print that says "may contain up to 10% ethanol". I live in Newfoundland and even though our province does not require this, most of our fuel comes from Irving in NB and ever since they started blending ethanol in their fuel my mileage has gone downhill. I use 89 octane and have always found that I get about 30 to 50 more kms per tank with 89 than 87. Sometimes I cheap out and get regular, but then I notice the drop in mileage and I switch back to 89.
Glenn....if Canada requires at least 5%, why do you say premium has 0. I mean your math adds up but the intent sure doesn't. It makes no sense to me to dump all the ethanol in just two blends...then claim to have at least 5% added to all gasoline, and what is your reasoning behind better mileage with 89 over 87. I have never seen any difference of mpg between the two. This is confusing to me.
the fact is that all "pure gasoline" gallons contain the same energy. 87 and 89 have the same energy content. I've not noticed any difference in MPG with the 87 vs the 89. Some will say that the hemi gets de-tuned when running the 87, but that is only the case when pre-detonation is sensed, and under normal driving, that is rare.
Ethanol has a lower energy content that gasoline, so a 5% blend has less energy than pure gas but more than a 10%.
Ethanol has a lower energy content that gasoline, so a 5% blend has less energy than pure gas but more than a 10%.
Glenn....if Canada requires at least 5%, why do you say premium has 0. I mean your math adds up but the intent sure doesn't. It makes no sense to me to dump all the ethanol in just two blends...then claim to have at least 5% added to all gasoline, and what is your reasoning behind better mileage with 89 over 87. I have never seen any difference of mpg between the two. This is confusing to me.
Now as far as the 87/89 octane debate goes, I have experienced a relatively small increase in my fuel economy when using 89 instead of 87. I've noticed it too many times for me to believe otherwise.
Thanks glenn.d. This will at least give me some indication of what I could expect. Likely mileage would be 19 to 21 mpg using out Canadian Imperial gallon - but also quite higher priced than yours. So, I think even with 18-20 mpg, I'd be OK with that and should be able to estimate my operating cost on a change of trucks from diesel to gas.


