Maybe... in my humble redneck opinion I'd bet CAI, programmer, and exhaust (even with a gutted catty and a three chamber muffler) would give a horsepower increase of maybe 20. I just don't think CAI systems do that much. Exhaust and programmers definately can open things up... but I still don't know if you could pull much more than 20-25 with those three things. With todays gas engines theres only so much more HP you can muster up without having to crack the thing open.

Truthfully I think the biggest actual horsepower gain you'd get out of the three would be from the exhaust. Stuff from the factory is so restricting due to the "treehugger" emmisions laws. Put a three chamber muffler on, yank of the cats, and install fake sensors. The programmer, I don't know that that will add a whole lot of horsepower... adjusting shift points makes it feel more powerful, but as far as numbers on a dyno, i dunno. BUT, I'm just talkin through the hole in my head

 

Well just from experience on a CAI vs one without, when your getting on it some can notice some cant but your vehicle gasps especially at high speeds.

My 06 ram had to take a deep breath and then would explode untill the next shift point where you could hear it taking another gasp for air. With the air intake installed its a steady amount of air slamming into the throttle body no gasping no pause after shifts.

Also if you want to see part of the proccess involved into the developement of CAI's check out K&N's website they have videos up of the entire developement proccess showing how they dyno measuirng their gains from the rear wheels.

As for a programmer it does add a little horsepower but its main purpose is to refine the power your engine already holds and delivers it out the wheels, no modern fuel injected engine can operate without being programmed so if you add a bunch of preformance parts like turbos etc. you still haft to go back and modify your engine settings to get it to operate without detonation especially if your going to rip into the cats and etc.

Also something that can sell it on its own is the fact that it makes your preformance exhuast louder.

 

Any more updates on any new products?

 

mopars website says they have CAI and exhaust

 

I was told that the only cold air intake avaliable for the 09 hemi is a dry filter system. What are your thought on the dry vs oiled and have you heard the same? By the way, I am new and have REALLY appreciated the stuff you guys post here. I am new to the whole dodge thing and have learned tons from reading here!!

 

I personally prefer a larger paper filter over an oiled foam filter. A large paper filter can flow just as well as an oil foamed filter, but will filter the air much better, which I feel is extremely important on modern tight-tolerance high compression engines. I personally expect some large gains with a chip with a 93 octane tune for the 09s. The 09 Hemi has 10.5:1 compression, yet is rated for 390HP/407 ft-lbs at 87 octane (according to dodge engineers, but they recommend 89). The timing must be very retarded to keep pinging under control. Higher octane fuel would let you use more timing, and utilize that compression.

One thing to be careful with CAIs is where they pull the air from. If they pull it from the engine bay, then there is a good chance that the air going into the engine will be hotter then with the factory intake.

 

The only thing I can find that is listed for '09 Hemi Ram is Part Number P5155280-Cat Back exhaust system, Dual Rear Exit, 5" Chrome Rectangular Tips, 2009 Ram 5.7L(wit bumper cut outs) 6'/8' beds, 4WD.


What the hell are we supposed to do with 5" rectangular tips when our bumper has the cut outs for round tips??? WTF? And why nothing for 2WD??? I just hope they support this truck with many of the goodies they offer to the Magnum and 300C drivers, like lowering kits, headers, exhaust, and what not. I wonder if the Lifetime Warranty is going to hurt Mopar Performance offerings. Our warranty does state that as long as we use Mopar accessories and have them installed by the dealer our warranty stays intact(the performance part will not be warranted, but everything else will be).

I am also awaiting the release of the Challenger Hood for our trucks. That thing looks sick.

Later
Bill

 

Im kinda loosing faith in mopar they havent released any preformance mods that ive seen for trucks that really do anyhting thats why I go to aftermarket.

 

Got it. Thank you. I will let you know what I decide to do.