4th Gen Ram Tech 2009 - 2018 Rams and the 2019 Ram Classic: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 2009 - 2018 Rams and the 2019 Ram Classic. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.
Old Aug 14, 2015, 07:27 PM
How-Tos on this Topic
Last edit by: IB Advertising
See related guides and technical advice from our community experts:

Browse all: Transmission Diagnostic Guide
Print Wikipost

3.21 gear ratio rant & question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:16 PM
  #11  
switchblade906's Avatar
switchblade906
Record Breaker
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 0
From: Apopka FL
Default

Originally Posted by HEMI_ROM
The forums are loaded with people wanting to go from 3.21's or 3.55's to the 3.92's but I have yet to see one single post where anyone wanted to go from 3.92's to 3.55's or 3.21's. I would suggest there is a reason for this.
Im going to either 4.10's or 4.56's when i save up the money lol
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:22 PM
  #12  
HEMI_ROM's Avatar
HEMI_ROM
Captain
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 626
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Default

Originally Posted by Dr. Bill
I have no idea why other than a fraction of fuel mileage that Dodge would do this. 20 inch wheels and 3.21 really hurts the take off and gives lower mileage in town. I drove a 3.92 and a 3.21 back to back and it was like a different world. FYI, Dodge required 4.10s with factory 20s in 02 when the 3rd gen Ram came out. I guess CAFE rules and the higher HP of the 09 hemi made them change their minds. I was really surprised at how many trucks were equiped with 3.21s when I was shopping for my 09.
I also have drove the 09 Ram with the 3.21 and the 3.92 and 20" wheels. I absolutely agree with you, there is a noticeable difference. The 3.92's are much faster out of the hole and they give a much crisper engine response all the way around.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:26 PM
  #13  
HEMI_ROM's Avatar
HEMI_ROM
Captain
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 626
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Default

Originally Posted by switchblade906
Im going to either 4.10's or 4.56's when i save up the money lol
Thats even better. Only down side for us 4x4 guys is we have to pay double for gear changes.
 
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:28 PM
  #14  
switchblade906's Avatar
switchblade906
Record Breaker
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 0
From: Apopka FL
Default

Originally Posted by HEMI_ROM
Thats even better. Only down side for us 4x4 guys is we have to pay double for gear changes.
YEP, and thats why its going to have to wait lol

i got quoted (4 wheel parts) 1500-1600 for either 4.10's or 4.56's with a auborn LSD and the install.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 01:48 AM
  #15  
bigred3297's Avatar
bigred3297
Record Breaker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,149
Likes: 1
From: Hawaii
Default

Originally Posted by switchblade906
YEP, and thats why its going to have to wait lol

i got quoted (4 wheel parts) 1500-1600 for either 4.10's or 4.56's with a auborn LSD and the install.
just go with the 4.56's because there's a high chance you'll regret not getting them when you get the 4.10's... with the 4.56's you cant go any higher on our axles without alot more money and work. They cost the same so as i said in your exhaust thread, go all out!
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 08:52 AM
  #16  
switchblade906's Avatar
switchblade906
Record Breaker
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 0
From: Apopka FL
Default

Originally Posted by bigred3297
just go with the 4.56's because there's a high chance you'll regret not getting them when you get the 4.10's... with the 4.56's you cant go any higher on our axles without alot more money and work. They cost the same so as i said in your exhaust thread, go all out!
Thats what im thinking, its just i would like to know what kind of power im going to have in top end and what kind of MPG ill be getting at 70-80 MPH
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 09:28 AM
  #17  
kddsRam's Avatar
kddsRam
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
From: back woods of Chester County PA
Default

Originally Posted by HEMI_ROM
Thats even better. Only down side for us 4x4 guys is we have to pay double for gear changes.
This is exactly why gear ratio was one of the top things I looked at on this truck. Window sticker as well as the axle tag in front of right rear wheel on rear housing. On my 06 FX4 I had done gears with Yukon 4.56 and between the rebuild kit, gears and install, it cost me $2200.00. I had a custom dyno tune on the truck so I could recalibrate the speedo and had the top end limiter removed but with 4.56's and 34" tires, top end was 101 mph. ( before the regear, in drive, could easily peg the speedo in 3rd gear, then it would shift into 4th/OD at 121 with the stock 3.73's. ) My advise, I wouldn't do 4.56's again, I do too much highway driving now, unless you are going with 35"+ tires, 4.10 is enough gear here.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 09:37 AM
  #18  
Dr. Bill's Avatar
Dr. Bill
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 419
Likes: 7
Default

If you guys with 3.21 and 3.55 want to change gearing, I would not change to a 3.92. If you are going to spend the money, go to the 4.10 to get the best improvement.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 09:46 AM
  #19  
HEMICrew's Avatar
HEMICrew
Rookie
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio, TX
Default

You can go as tall as you want with respect to 4.10s or 4.56s but be sure to think about your warranty. There's only one trim level with the 4.10s from the factory so if you put anything over 3.92s on your truck, just be sure you're willing to overlook the potential warranty issues if anything goes wrong. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade but just something to consider.

Jason

Originally Posted by Dr. Bill
If you guys with 3.21 and 3.55 want to change gearing, I would not change to a 3.92. If you are going to spend the money, go to the 4.10 to get the best improvement.
 
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:44 AM
  #20  
KeepOnTruckin's Avatar
KeepOnTruckin
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Napa, CA
Default Help!!?

Would someone please take pity on engine-ignorant dullards like me and explain something?

What do you guys mean by "3.21" and these other similar numbers? It doesn't correspond the gear ratios since the 5-45RFE first gear is 1:3.00, right?

(BTW, the link below (from 2003) has a good description of the history and gearing from sgbofav.) :

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/dodge-r...e-5-45rfe.html

Thanks a bunch!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:34 AM.