Vortech Supercharger Interest
I just stepped into the world of Blackberry and don't know how I have ever lived without it. I also had to run the battery down.
So we go from you two arguing by saying the same thing back and forth to each other (I understand, my wife and I do it too) to what kind of phones you have. Haha. Awesome. Well, I want to fit in too. I have an iPhone.
HA Ha, I'm back for one last post. I have an iPhone 3GS. Upgraded from a 1st Gen iPhone that I bought the first day sold.
BTW, I've only got 10% battery left so let's not argue anymore until tomorrow.
Tomorrow let's talk about the transmissions and the differences between the Rams auto and the auto in the blown Chargers. I'd like to know what makes ours so weak.
BTW, I've only got 10% battery left so let's not argue anymore until tomorrow.
Tomorrow let's talk about the transmissions and the differences between the Rams auto and the auto in the blown Chargers. I'd like to know what makes ours so weak.
It's not any weaker. The truck weighs more, gears are different, more stess, and we'd be more likely to tow/haul with it. . . The tune is more complex than previous Dodge models. Not only would Chrysler use different code/language (which is actually Daimler left overs) than other manufactures, they would also have to figure out how each piece and each computer and each component those computers are hooked to work together at different times, temps, loads, fuel/air ratios which would all change with forced induction. It is VERY expensive to write code for a product you didn't develope and don't have the "deep dark" information for. Fix one thing it breaks another, fix that, boom lights don't come on. I deal with simulation stuff and I could have the engineers fix only one issue and something you would think is completely unrelated now has an issue that worked just fine before.
Simple economics. The problem is, there is no demand as our trucks already produce gobbs of power most people are satisfied with most of the time. Ford and Chevy guys are always looking for that "catch-up" power . . . LOL
And to answer your question, I would love to have a forced induction system, the wife however would not. I truely believe that if some company developed a less expensive (not cheaper. . .) system more people would by them. I think that 8-9 psi is too much for these engines and 5-6 as previously stated is more realistic. And this could be done with most SC setups. This trick is keeping that charge cool and consistant.
Simple economics. The problem is, there is no demand as our trucks already produce gobbs of power most people are satisfied with most of the time. Ford and Chevy guys are always looking for that "catch-up" power . . . LOL
And to answer your question, I would love to have a forced induction system, the wife however would not. I truely believe that if some company developed a less expensive (not cheaper. . .) system more people would by them. I think that 8-9 psi is too much for these engines and 5-6 as previously stated is more realistic. And this could be done with most SC setups. This trick is keeping that charge cool and consistant.
I would be VERY interested..but...
1. this RAM needs a tune now-badly. you can feel the factory restrictions on every acceleration/shift
2. while it may need a tune--it couldn't be any smoother--thats why I bought it over its competition. This motor, chassis, and tranny are buttery smooth (not to mention the suspension)
So--if there was a S/C available that added 80-100 rwhp, yet retained the smoothness of the the driving experience---count me in.
As has been stated here already though--the key to the whole thing is the tune. These HEMIs seem to take 5-7 psi well--but are very touchy to tune.
I drove an SRT8 challenger recently that had a twin screw S/C on it. (won't name the company but it wasn't VORTECH-who has a great history and rep)
Was it fast--hell yes. Was it fun to drive--hell no. It wasn't properly tuned and the boost came on far too quickly, and unpredictably.
But could you imagine this 5.7 we have with another 100 SMOOTH horsepower. Yummy!!
1. this RAM needs a tune now-badly. you can feel the factory restrictions on every acceleration/shift
2. while it may need a tune--it couldn't be any smoother--thats why I bought it over its competition. This motor, chassis, and tranny are buttery smooth (not to mention the suspension)
So--if there was a S/C available that added 80-100 rwhp, yet retained the smoothness of the the driving experience---count me in.
As has been stated here already though--the key to the whole thing is the tune. These HEMIs seem to take 5-7 psi well--but are very touchy to tune.
I drove an SRT8 challenger recently that had a twin screw S/C on it. (won't name the company but it wasn't VORTECH-who has a great history and rep)
Was it fast--hell yes. Was it fun to drive--hell no. It wasn't properly tuned and the boost came on far too quickly, and unpredictably.
But could you imagine this 5.7 we have with another 100 SMOOTH horsepower. Yummy!!
Not to take away from the 4th gen guys, but you should also ask them if they would be interested in doing one for the 3rd gen rams as well. They might be able to find a larger customer group if they do them as well...
Guys...don't get snagged up on the 8-9 PSI part...let the R&D techs work that out. They would obviously design the kit to be safe. I think some of you would be amazed at what some motors can actually handle. I was shocked to see my SRT-4 could handle 30psi when stock boost is about 13-14psi. I drove it daily at 24-26psi on meth. It wasnt the boost that worried me, it was the detonation possibilities. Of course I upgraded my motor anyway...just because I could...LOL. Anyway, please keep the input coming. When there is enough I will bring it to them for answers.
I will ask them....after...lol.



