offroadjosh,

Thanks for the constructive help. I'm on my second cup of joe so things are improving. I see a fireman's badge on your signature. If you're a road warrior I appreciate what you have to do.

Chris Rodgers

 

Sorry for barkin! Was cranky as i hadn't had my cup of joe yet! (fire calls..) You will find it easier to just make a new post though. As for your question. Go with the 2010 its probably still under warranty and probably has more warrany left than an 08 plus its newer and personally like the styling and the extra 45hp. Thanks i try my best to stay safe!

 

Im convinced, 100% that dodge, Ford, GM, Toyota, Nissan build and design products that self imploade when the warrenty is up, and all new and inovate really means how can we build cheaper, than your forced into buying the new er more improved version 4 to five years down the road.

Truck for thruck the new 4rth gen Ram is a better ridding, better handeling truck than the 3rd gen, all thow Im not 100% on the idea of rear coils, concept is not new as rail cars use the same prinecpal and good old GMC had rear colis in the late 60's trucks.

THe big question you have to ask that thier are no answers for is whats going fail on the truck when you have no warenty and your paying, paying.

Ever since I wnet into the new world of cars and trucks, I hate to admit the stress of payments and things breaking on or off warenty takes alot away from the lust of a truck or a car you can't keep in a protective shell.

I beleave most people lose thier common sense and compete with them thier inner deamons and sense of self worth when the option sheet is presented.

If you have a need and the means to go new, than buy with all means you have, if you have a good older truck thats paid for, thats money in your pocket in todays world, and yes, things will break.

Hell I would be happy to go back to my 1977 F-100 with a 4sp man, 302 no power brakes and man stearing with the vynil floor and big *** bench seat.

THe fourth gen Ram is a awsome looking and awsome in a lot of ways over the 3rd gen dodge, its up to you if you want to pay for it.

 

I don't agree that today's vehicles are that bad. Sure, things wear and break, but that's because a car or truck are machines after all, and like all machines there's a point at which metal gives way to mechanical stress. There are a lot of vehicles out there that have a lot of miles on them, proof that care and good maintenance will keep a vehicle going for a long time.

If you bought a new car in 1935 you'd be looking at replacing the brakes every 10,000 miles and doing a valve job by 40,000. Engines rarely had 70,000 miles on them before they needed new bearings and rings. You might get 15,000 out of a set of tires.

When I was a young person it was a big deal to see a vehicle that had an odometer that flipped over. Nowadays it's very common to see one that has over 100,000 miles. A few weeks ago I saw a 2002 Ram with 217K on it and the owner said the only thing he had replaced on the motor was the water pump and the transmission had never been touched except for routine maintenance.

My Dakota had 151,000 miles on it and it was still going strong. Except for spark plugs and PCV valves, never touched anything on the engine, transmission, axles, exhaust systen, not even the drive belts. Yep. Replaced some front suspension components (tie rods twice, lower ball joints once), a battery, but how long should things like that last?

There's a practical life to everything.

"Truck for thruck the new 4rth gen Ram is a better ridding, better handeling truck than the 3rd gen, all thow Im not 100% on the idea of rear coils, concept is not new as rail cars use the same prinecpal and good old GMC had rear colis in the late 60's trucks."

I know that there are guys who need to have a truck with the highest load and tow ratings, either because they believe it equates to "stronger" or "better," or maybe just to be able to brag about whose truck is superior. There's been a lot of exaggeration in this area of truck marketing. Ram has been using the SAE rating system for quite a few years, much to their detriment. In my opinion I think Ram has been more honest and realistic than Ford or GM in this area (there's probably also a liability concern as well). You will notice that since they now all must comply with the SAE rating system, one manufacturer in particular has reduced their ratings!

My 2010 has a tow rating of 10,400 lbs. I've come close to that by towing 9100 lbs and it handled it expertly. But towing something that heavy was an anomaly for me. Normally all I regularly need to tow is three or four ATVs. So for me I'm not needing the maximum possible in a half ton pickup. In fact, if the Ram was rated at 9000 that would be fine with me. My priorities are elsewhere. In my opinion the comfort, quietness, ride and performance of the Ram is superior to competitive trucks at the moment.

If you need the max for routine work, I'd seriously recommend a 3/4 ton which is better equipped all around to handle such weights.

Regards,
Dusty
2010 Ram Big Horn 1500 Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 545RFE, 3.92 LSD, dual exhaust, 20” wheels

 

I so enjoy the discussions here. It helps to read contributors view points.
I'm going to look at a 2005 - 3500 diesel 4x4, quad cab with cap. 185K kms with a current safety. Fresh paint, front end work last Fall. They're at $18K firm. I've checked out the used 2010 - 2012's - 1500 's at my local dealer. Yes, used 2012's are there. Used prices seem high $25-$27K. New, after manufacturers discounts, 1500 - 2012 prices are around $29K. So, I'm researching the diesel vs gas thing.
But $18K is looking too good to pass up right now.

Chris