Leveling Kit / Warranty!! Grrrr
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Leveling Kit / Warranty!! Grrrr
I have a 2010 ram Sport and i want to level the truck so i started by going through the dealer for the parts and the install. The quoted me at $410 for parts and install and the kit they use (that doesn't void warranty, so they say) is the rough country kit that is 2.5" front and .75" rear. So me being nosy looks up the kit and its a $130 kit and my dad is a mechanic so what the hell how hard could it be. SO i called the dealer and they told me that i could install the kit but they would not warranty my rear end because they said that the leveling kits put the rear in a bind and that it will need replace after like 40k miles.
Now, its this total BS? My dad said back in the day when lifting and leveling trucks they had to shim them to keep the correct angle. But anyways, I need some good insight here, i dont want to be replacing a rear in a few years.
P.S. will 35/12.50/20's fit, the suggested size is a 33" with leveling kit
Now, its this total BS? My dad said back in the day when lifting and leveling trucks they had to shim them to keep the correct angle. But anyways, I need some good insight here, i dont want to be replacing a rear in a few years.
P.S. will 35/12.50/20's fit, the suggested size is a 33" with leveling kit
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Hard to shim a coil spring rear suspension 
I have a hard time believing that a 3/4" lift is going to cause any issues and if it does it will be a u-joint that goes out not the rear end. The driveshaft is practically level in a stock ram, there is no way that the driveshaft and pinion yoke are going to bind.
I have a hard time believing that a 3/4" lift is going to cause any issues and if it does it will be a u-joint that goes out not the rear end. The driveshaft is practically level in a stock ram, there is no way that the driveshaft and pinion yoke are going to bind.
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I went back and forth on this very issue a couple of weeks ago. I ordered a Daystar kit first then I ended up ordering the Mopar leveling kit to insure that I keep my warranty. The difference between the Daystar kit installed (by local offroad shop)and the Mopar kit installed (by the dealer) was $250. I decided that for an extra $250 bucks I would rather keep my warranty then to just throw it away to save a few bucks. Keep in mind that you will still have to have the truck aligned after, which will run from $75 to $100 bucks. IMO spend the few extra bucks and have the dealer do it. This way if there is a shuttering problem or it burns up a driveshaft they have to cover it under warranty. As for the nose sitting high, there are a few truck's on here with the Mopar kit and it does not look like it sits high up front. It actually looks pretty good. I will post some pictures of mine once it is all done on Tuesday of next week.
PS the Mopar leveling kit is a Superlift leveling kit. The ship from address on the box was Superlift's.
PS the Mopar leveling kit is a Superlift leveling kit. The ship from address on the box was Superlift's.
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New Vehicle Warranties And Your Rights
No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle manufacturers warranty. According to the provisions in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act, It is the dealership's responsibility to prove that your modification directly caused or affected the failure you are trying to resolve. With that said, some dealerships are more performance-oriented than others and are more willing to work with customers.
Warranty-related materials, published by the new vehicle manufacturers, state that the installation of aftermarket parts have no effect on the warranty unless such equipment causes the problem that leads to the warranty claim. Nonetheless, some dealers have improperly denied warranty claims even though the claim had nothing to do with aftermarket parts. I.E., just because you install an exhaust system, your suspension failure warranty claim cannot be denied. If you experience a problem with an uncooperative dealership, point out the provisions of the this "FEDERAL ACT". For more information call your vehicle manufacturer or click on the link above to go directly to the Federal Trade Commission's website to find out more about this law.
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To add to that I have one dealer telling me to change my oil at 5k and another at 3k. If I go over 3k and something fails the dealer claiming i have to change my oil at 3k could deny my warranty.
I'm dealing with this right now on a lift and I have one dealer who wont ever speak to me and another telling me go for it. Fortunately the dealer tell me to go for is is where I bought the truck.
So you know Larger tires can also void your warranty. If you wee to blow your steering box they could blame it on the tires and well now your coming out of pocket for the repair. My dealer told me if that were to happen they would replace it. however, if it happened again and again they would probably take a closer look to see if the mods I made caused this. So in a nut my dealer is pretty cool with mods. Especially if I use one of there preferred after market shops.
I'm dealing with this right now on a lift and I have one dealer who wont ever speak to me and another telling me go for it. Fortunately the dealer tell me to go for is is where I bought the truck.
So you know Larger tires can also void your warranty. If you wee to blow your steering box they could blame it on the tires and well now your coming out of pocket for the repair. My dealer told me if that were to happen they would replace it. however, if it happened again and again they would probably take a closer look to see if the mods I made caused this. So in a nut my dealer is pretty cool with mods. Especially if I use one of there preferred after market shops.
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New Vehicle Warranties And Your Rights
No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle manufacturers warranty. According to the provisions in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act, It is the dealership's responsibility to prove that your modification directly caused or affected the failure you are trying to resolve. With that said, some dealerships are more performance-oriented than others and are more willing to work with customers.
Warranty-related materials, published by the new vehicle manufacturers, state that the installation of aftermarket parts have no effect on the warranty unless such equipment causes the problem that leads to the warranty claim. Nonetheless, some dealers have improperly denied warranty claims even though the claim had nothing to do with aftermarket parts. I.E., just because you install an exhaust system, your suspension failure warranty claim cannot be denied. If you experience a problem with an uncooperative dealership, point out the provisions of the this "FEDERAL ACT". For more information call your vehicle manufacturer or click on the link above to go directly to the Federal Trade Commission's website to find out more about this law.
No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle manufacturers warranty. According to the provisions in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act, It is the dealership's responsibility to prove that your modification directly caused or affected the failure you are trying to resolve. With that said, some dealerships are more performance-oriented than others and are more willing to work with customers.
Warranty-related materials, published by the new vehicle manufacturers, state that the installation of aftermarket parts have no effect on the warranty unless such equipment causes the problem that leads to the warranty claim. Nonetheless, some dealers have improperly denied warranty claims even though the claim had nothing to do with aftermarket parts. I.E., just because you install an exhaust system, your suspension failure warranty claim cannot be denied. If you experience a problem with an uncooperative dealership, point out the provisions of the this "FEDERAL ACT". For more information call your vehicle manufacturer or click on the link above to go directly to the Federal Trade Commission's website to find out more about this law.
Nice post, However I would rather avoid this situation all together. The way the Dealer broke it down to me was the leveling kit puts stress on the drive axle which puts strain on the driveline blah, blah, blah. Sounds like it would be a big run around and I feel that I have a good dealer, they have always treated me right. Anyway I find it easier to just do it the way the dealer wants that way when something happens fingers are only being pointed in one direction.
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For sure, you have to do what you feel comfortable with. I can't say I'm totally comfortable lifting my truck. But I'm excited about it none the less. (Btw, ive been running that DayStar spacer in the front of mine for almost a year. never had a shimmy or a creak. Works perfectly) I have talked to 4 dealers and only one was uptight about what Im doing. It is a risk expecially since I have the lifetime bumber to bumber on my truck. However Im not gonna be happy driving it till it looks the way I want. So I'm gonna take the plunge and just do it. You only live once. 
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For sure, you have to do what you feel comfortable with. I can't say I'm totally comfortable lifting my truck. But I'm excited about it none the less. (Btw, ive been running that DayStar spacer in the front of mine for almost a year. never had a shimmy or a creak. Works perfectly) I have talked to 4 dealers and only one was uptight about what Im doing. It is a risk expecially since I have the lifetime bumber to bumber on my truck. However Im not gonna be happy driving it till it looks the way I want. So I'm gonna take the plunge and just do it. You only live once.
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I forgot you where the person that I was talking to in that thread. The white truck in that thread in my first 4th Generation truck that I had, it was 2wd as well. I did the same thing that you did on that truck. Because of that I decided to go factory for the 4wd. The shutter only comes from the 4wd versions. I did not have any issue's either with my 2wd leveling kit.