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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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Your truck was assembled at the Jeep plant? Must be special.

Very little, if any, quality issues on today's vehicles comes from the labor. The processes are made to be idiot proof, and there are too many checks and balances for something to get through that is the fault an installer. The issues lies with the company going to the lowest bidder for the cheapest parts.
 

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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jdustu
Your truck was assembled at the Jeep plant? Must be special.

Very little, if any, quality issues on today's vehicles comes from the labor. The processes are made to be idiot proof, and there are too many checks and balances for something to get through that is the fault an installer. The issues lies with the company going to the lowest bidder for the cheapest parts.
I agree, even through you have a few bad apples working at the plant. There are too many mistake proof and error proofing devices on the assembly line that prevent misbuilds. Being drunk or not, if the component is missing or a bolt wasn't torqued it's not leaving the station unless the process is completed. Being drunk is more of a safety issue in the plant. IF they get in the way of a hi-lo or get cut becuase they are not aware of their surrondings. I have a hard time figuring out the people that comment that their family is at risk becuase of these people. I think those people have not seen an assembly plant and how things work today. These plants are not 1980 technology anymore, they don't rely on human intervention much anymore. Most everything is automated.

Edit: That's another good point. We are not even sure if they were Chrysler employees. Most everything is outsourced. Hi-Lo drivers are contractors, shipping and receiving are contractors, maintenance is usually outsourced now, janitors outsourced, part delivery to the line is outsourced. Yet they all wear the same uniforms so everyone feels like an equal (even though they are probably making 2/3 of what a chrysler employee is making)
 

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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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you guys should love this then....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6pS...eature=related
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jdustu
Your truck was assembled at the Jeep plant? Must be special.

Very little, if any, quality issues on today's vehicles comes from the labor. The processes are made to be idiot proof, and there are too many checks and balances for something to get through that is the fault an installer. The issues lies with the company going to the lowest bidder for the cheapest parts.

In the video links, what is that at :49, :50, :51....? New Jeep truck? Hmmm..?

I have a problem figuring out people that are trying to figure out people that want to have a huge investment put together by people who are paying attention to what they are doing, getting paid some pretty serious cash, that the tax payers of this country bailed out. Not certain why anyone in the right mind would defend any of these guys drinking on the job, but to each there own I guess. And If they were out sourced employees why was the Chrysler heads so irate about it. They would have just said...we had our outsourced companies take care of it.
They were Chrysler employees whether there by another company or by Chrysler. Automated or not, they were a safety as well as a manufacturing problem. Yes there are many check points at a manufacturing line. These checks are performed by people. Some of which just might have been those guys in the video. We don't know, true. We can't blame everyone true. But If I were working that line, I would do like we did in the Marine Corps. We would take those guys of the equation right quick.
Doing a job, with pride in your work, is what is disappearing in this Country................
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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This kinda stuff happens quite a bit.

Construction is another 'trade' where 'illegal behavior' is quite rampant.

Sure makes it look bad for the rest who do 'toe the line' and bust azz,,,
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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Thats me on that report. I got hammered one day at work ..LOL just kidding.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMULAK
In the video links, what is that at :49, :50, :51....? New Jeep truck? Hmmm..?

I have a problem figuring out people that are trying to figure out people that want to have a huge investment put together by people who are paying attention to what they are doing, getting paid some pretty serious cash, that the tax payers of this country bailed out. Not certain why anyone in the right mind would defend any of these guys drinking on the job, but to each there own I guess. And If they were out sourced employees why was the Chrysler heads so irate about it. They would have just said...we had our outsourced companies take care of it.
They were Chrysler employees whether there by another company or by Chrysler. Automated or not, they were a safety as well as a manufacturing problem. Yes there are many check points at a manufacturing line. These checks are performed by people. Some of which just might have been those guys in the video. We don't know, true. We can't blame everyone true. But If I were working that line, I would do like we did in the Marine Corps. We would take those guys of the equation right quick.
Doing a job, with pride in your work, is what is disappearing in this Country................
Are you drunk? I'm trying to actually decipher what you wrote....

Yeah it was stock footage from WTAP....that's why there are trucks in the video. Shoddy reporting.

The actual "bust" happened at JNAP.

I'm not defending any of that junk, I'm saying it has nothing to do with outgoing quality. Checks aren't done *just* by people. If you'd ever worked in a modern assembly plant you'd know what I mean, but a few drunks on the job have absolutely no relation to a rattle on your truck.
 

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